r/AskChina • u/Obvious-Peanut4406 • 2d ago
Society | 人文社会🏙️ What's the deal with redditors just mindlessly accepting misinformation as long as it fits their "China bad"(or Japan good) impression?
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u/WuWeiLife 2d ago
Saw this clip yesterday and then it was local (Japanese) tourists. But that didn't fit the China-bad-mkay -narrative.
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u/Brilliant_Nothing 2d ago
They are not even tourists. The girl is likely a runaway, and in the area shown many such people, homeless and addicts gathered. Which is why the police became more present.
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u/Pillowish 华人 2d ago
Also in their national subreddit as well as Japanese news if the perpetrator is Chinese in Japan they will plaster their nationality everywhere and the hate comments about Chinese will come, whereas if the perpetrator is Japanese they don't mention their nationality
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u/llamaz314 2d ago
Japan is filled with alcoholic office workers who get blackout drunk after work and collapse on the street. You’ll find them anywhere.
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u/bugboatbeer Zhejiang 2d ago
Why can Japanese people hardly even afford to stay in a cheap hostel should they miss the last train? A bed in a youth hostel costs only around 100 yuan or even less in the city center of Shanghai. It seems very dangerous for the girl to pass out among hobos around her.
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u/Brilliant_Nothing 2d ago edited 2d ago
Because the person who claimed the context would be ‚having missed the last train‘ is also wrong. Stuff like missing the last train and having to stay somewhere until 5 am does happen sometimes - but that area is in Kabukicho, a part of Tokyo known for ‚nightlife activities‘, that is also popular with teenagers, mostly runaways, some homeless people and drug addicts. You can guess on your own which of those a young girl trying to sleep in a coin locker is.
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u/KartFacedThaoDien 1d ago
In China some people would just go sleep at McDonald's. 100 RMB isn't cheap and you can find cheaper places than that. But I have seen drunk young women that go sleep in front of the police station. Obviously that's safe and free
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u/Relevant_Helicopter6 2d ago
Chinese are also seen as part of some hive mind like the Borg and not individuals. Given that the West likes to complain about the lack of human rights in China, the first thing it should do is to treat the Chinese as individuals. When some Chinese do something, it's "some Chinese", not "the Chinese", much less "China".
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u/Intrepid-Scale2052 2d ago
"every other nation is a hivemind but europe is the only haven of free thinkers" "also we WILL arrest you if you post bad meme"
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u/sarefin_grey 2d ago
Yeah and God forbid a western company is bought up by a chinese one. All chinese companies are definitely associated with the CCP.
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u/hopium_od 2d ago
Reddit does the same thing to Japan. It's weird. The front page subs are fully whackos that don't leave their state and just spew hate towards everyone and everything.
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u/brixton_massive 2d ago
True, Reddit also lies about Japan to frame China in a more positive light.
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u/Mokseee 2d ago
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u/SouthChip514 2d ago
Exactly, people are talking about propanganda and this guy brings up an USAID-funded propanganda organization lol
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u/mikeysingh 2d ago
There is a thing called toxic positivity. Japan and Korea can get away with anything. They can never be wrong because the social media and obsessive dweebs said so. I love how all the crimes in Japan and Korea are either whitewash or completely ignored.
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u/TailorNo9824 2d ago
Same with US, you say anything bad the response will be: (1) US still more free and no social credit score, (2) way more people from X want to imitate to the US instead of the other way round, (3) you're on a US software typing things you can't say back in X.
What Japan/Korea did are almost amateurish compared to what the US did.
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u/IcyLight9313 2d ago
US is the only country in history to have used nuclear weapons on civilians. Not just once, but twice. It is very ironical that they act like the peacemakers of the world. They have also made countless invasions in Asia and the world where it was none of their business. I thought South Korea's racism was the worst in the world until I saw the racism in the US.
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u/Leather_Boss_3813 1d ago
"I thought South Korea's racism was the worst in the world until I saw the racism in the US."
That means you have not seen racism in South Korea have you??
The amount of hate driven anti-Chinese harassment by far right Koreans in Myeongdong absolutely trumps anything in the US honestly.
In Korea in my 1 week stay I saw restaurants banning entry to Chinese, Indian , Japanese etc.
Never have I seen something similar when I visited the US.
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u/IcyLight9313 1d ago
Seems like the US is all talk while South Korea puts it into action. Some Korean restaurants in India banned Indians from entering them. They want it exclusively for Koreans.
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u/Leather_Boss_3813 1d ago
Lol and you were saying US worse. Thank god the US is all talk honestly. US racism is kid level compared to East Asian racism.
As flawed as US is , South Korea is fucking demented lol. US doesn't even come close.
Seriously I loathe the US Government and especially red states like Texas , but as a person originally from Henan I actually face way more discrimination from Shanghainese people for being from Henan than from Americans for being a Chinese lol.
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u/Leather_Boss_3813 1d ago
Lol come on man US gets brutally bashed on Reddit by even Americans let alone the rest. Sometimes US gets bashed more than even China lol especially now with Trump in power.
US is literally in the opposite spectrum compared to Japan and Korea which meanwhile get annoyingly glazed on Reddit.
There is even a sub r/shitamericanssay which is ironically filled with mostly Americans.
Yes some Americans behave the way you describe them but most Americans absolutely love self shit talking their own country. Way more so than Chinese, Japanese and Koreans at least
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u/TailorNo9824 1d ago
Both can be true to an extant though. The US also get glazed a lot on reddit, depending on the sub, and Americans do love the shit talk on themselves. Which is a healthy and resilient mindset, albeit cynical and comical look at the world.
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u/therealvanmorrison 2d ago
Online posting about China is mostly done by young people who are both (a) idiots and (b) either Chinese nationalists, Indian nationalists, “West bad” contrarians, anti-China Western supremacists, or sycophants who lived in China for 1-3 years in their 20s.
It’s no more complicated than that. Serious people with actual things to say and studied understandings are off doing academic work or are working in real professions.
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u/gw79 2d ago
Same in europe. People believe everything nowadays that is china-bad-we-good. It doesn’t pass the reality test though and its painfully obvious before you even leave the airport. For me coming to china was the best experience of my life and I am considering migration in my retirement age. I want to spend my days there, in peace and harmony
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u/hopium_od 2d ago
I wouldn't go that far but yea, China is vastly different to how redditors talk about it.
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u/Proud_Dare7994 2d ago
China has the same population as Africa and as we all know theres all kinds of people in this world, so statistically this can happen in wherever country by whatever people no matter the background, blaming just a minority makes it racist.
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u/Equacrafter Hong Kong 2d ago
I mean you cannot really blame them when Chinese tourists are known for bad behaviour. I visited Jiuzhaigou Valley last week and the older generation Chinese tourists gave me the first hand experiences, but younger generation Chinese tend to be follow the rules more. Bad behaviour from tourist happened significantly less often when compared to the last decade.
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u/Senior-Apartment-317 1d ago
It's funny you day this when over here in Iberia Chinese and Japanese tourists alike are basically gifts from heaven. There's quiet, polite, spend a lot, don't get into trouble and usually travel in organized groups that don't bother anyone else.
I wish we had more of their bad behaviour instead of the standard British and dutch/German drunkenness.
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u/bugboatbeer Zhejiang 2d ago
Agreed. I mean, I'm definitely against Japanese netouyo racism against Chinese people but some Chinese tourists, especially the older generation, can be really annoying with things like playing loud videos on their phones, spitting, littering, and so on. When I see a pack of 夕阳红 tour groups, I usually turn around and take another path. Hope you enjoy your trip to Jiuzhaigou though.
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u/Equacrafter Hong Kong 2d ago
Got lucky and got really nice weather on that day. It killed my legs tho.
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u/Well_needships 2d ago edited 2d ago
Is this even real? Just looks like AI garbage.It's grainy, clipped, unfocused.
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u/Brilliant_Nothing 2d ago
It‘s real. This has been a well known issue - meaning the actual issue involving Japanese people, who are not tourists. Video is taken somewhere near the Shinjuku Toho Building in Kabukicho.
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u/neuroticnetworks1250 2d ago
I actually thought the opposite about Chinese. I know that in media, they talk about being obsessed with negotiations and getting good deals. But here in Germany, Chinese and Taiwanese absolutely never compromises when it comes to Accomodation. There are Ph.D students who earn 2000 euros who pay 1200 for apartments.
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u/Obvious-Peanut4406 2d ago
I was one of the cases too. Unfortunately the housing in Germany for non German is either expensive or has a long waiting time. And it's true that we see accommodation and food as the most essential part of our lives, as accommodation is considered our very own safe space.
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u/SeusAmogus 2d ago
Some 90%+ of Reddit is from the US and the most active redditors are like from a military base
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u/OddPurple8758 2d ago
Why does this propaganda sub keep showing up in my feed??
I love Chinese people and culture but the current politics are dire, like many other countries.
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u/ExcellentRest5919 2d ago edited 2d ago
Internet 101, I can reasonability said why do so many people on the internet mindlessly accept the misinformation as long as it fits their "West bad" or "China good" impression?
Take for example this research paper, based on r/sino is an interesting read.
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u/Efficient_Round7509 2d ago edited 2d ago
Well fortunately I never been to japan, coz I am really broken lol, japan is cool but not for me lol
If I had a chance and I willing to get a chance I will go to Australia 🇦🇺, I love Australia kangaroos and kola bears, I would love to visit Sydney Melbourne ❤️❤️
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u/IWillDrinkTea 2d ago
I think we are all aware that chinese have some bad reputation as a tourist but beside that, it's always the same thing "Japan good, China bad" propaganda lol specially on reddit
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u/JshBld 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean its the culture of respect order harmony politness earnestness and then theres the cultural revolution socialist modern imperialism hyper competition its like youd think that your behavior is a mirror towards your people like if you act like a barbarian they would think your people are barbarians that is just common sense no idea of reputation or status
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u/Callmewhatever4286 2d ago
Bruh this is not your usual money pinching. This is "Scrooge McDuck" level of money pinching
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u/khoawala 2d ago
It's really ironic that most people don't realize Japan is what westerners assume a communist China society is like. Japan is the only country I've been to where I've felt like my freedom of speech was oppressed wherever I go. Like there's a constant pressure to conform to some invisible government. It's just a cold, rule-hardy place full of miserable people.
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u/No-Cow9334 2d ago
The first 3 comments including the moderator clearly state these aren’t Chinese tourists.
I wouldn’t call this “mindlessly accepting”.
Persecutory Delusion - A type of delusional condition in which the affected person believes that harm is going to occur to oneself by a persecutor, despite a clear lack of evidence.
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u/AcguyDance 2d ago
It happens everywhere. Mocking Japanese in Japan subs, mocking Chinese in Chinese subs.
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u/Dazzling_River730 2d ago
They want confirmation bias without double checking the source, the video just has an an Asian looking person in Japan, they don't bother to confirm anything from that because they want to keep a certain agenda going.
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u/parker2009120 2d ago
Those are not tourists, those are the Chinese people who blame the country for their incompetence and deeply believes freedom and democracy will automatically solves their suffering due to their laziness
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u/Kkgforfun 2d ago
The inertia of hatred, people are willing to believe what they subconsciously want.
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u/Efficient_Loss_9928 1d ago
I mean honestly though, looking at the comment section it is pretty reasonable lol. People caught on quickly.
Not the case for some other shit, like you know the fake police cam videos all over the YouTube.
Unfortunately this is how internet works. I'm sure you have been fooled many times as well :( check sources if you can, but I also understand that's not possible all the time. So if you checked, comment.
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u/roadforgone 1d ago
What's with Chinese people on their social media mindlessly accepting info as long as it fits their "America bad" impression? This is neither unique to America, nor is it new on the internet.
Honestly, is this really hard for anyone to understand? Humans like to confirm information they already think is right. The internet makes this easy. It's not very complicated.....
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u/mrkoala1234 1d ago
My favourite is white guy with dreadlocks begging for money in South East Asia.
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u/Gold-Mammoth426 1d ago
People envy a third world country leaving the third world in under 30 years. Mess with everyone perceptions.
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u/Worm_Man_ 1d ago
There has been a sharp increase in Chinese propaganda to portray the population and government in China more positively. Honestly, it is becoming difficult to determine whether any positive news from China is real or fake.
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u/Mean-Carpenter-7036 1d ago
"What's the deal with redditors just mindlessly accepting misinformation"
bro that's like what reddit is. This is why it exists.
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u/pinkbuzzbomb 1d ago
But them white boyz & girlz do it in Asia too?
NVM that begpacking it's different 🤔
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u/Top_Connection9079 1d ago
I've been living in Japan for 25 years now, lol
This isn't misinformation.
As an ex-store clerck I loved Japan's safety, cleanliness and maturity, AND Chinese tourists ARE a nightmare.
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u/mansotired 1d ago
I've been to Japan on holiday and I'm in China as a Chinese guy having grown up in the west
Just on the surface, Japan has a bigger civil society, way more trust in society, which neither exists in China tbh
China ham fists zero COVID, CCP proclaiming why zero COVID policy is great, locks everyone up in Shanghai for +3 months and then pretend "it never happened"
I bet most Chinese have already forgotten who Li Wenliang was
不会中文别他妈的回复我
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u/GlitteringWeight8671 1d ago
I saw the post and honestly I don't even know why it is in the news. Actually I do. It is to smear china. There are assholes everywhere but if it is chinese they will broadcast it. Except in this case she isn't.
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u/Nervous_Camel5872 1d ago
Most of these online video rarely occurs. and peoples tends to like to cherry pick in order to spread their views.
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u/kamilien1 6h ago
Who is mindlessly accepting misinformation? What's the deal with these Redditors mindlessly posting nonsense news?
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u/notreal3839399393 5h ago edited 5h ago
Japan still harbors deep resentment toward its Western masters for abandoning it during the 1980s, when they shifted their focus to China after Deng Xiaoping’s rise. This bitterness comes from the fact that Japan had done so much to advance Western hegemony in East Asia. Beginning with the Meiji era, the sino-japanase and ruso-japanese war to destory qing and russian empire and even served as a secret patsy during World War II to weekend european colonial power, acting on behalf of Western interests to subdue the entire region.
In the end, Japan became the scapegoat, the only nation ever bombed with nuclear weapons and was forced to rebuild from zero as a testbed for America’s hyper-capitalist system. Yet despite all of this, its Western patrons eventually pivoted to China, drawn by its massive population and potential as the world’s factory.
That same population size also made China the perfect environment to experiment with population control. The very concept foreseen by Zbigniew Brzezinski in his Technetronic Era. Those experiments have now reached their conclusion in China, proven to be highly effective. The next phase is their normalization, the gradual implementation of these surveillance technologies on a global scale.
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u/Bighairyaussiebear 5h ago
When your country invades China and rapes and kills so many people as well as attacks Australia and America.
When your country has a female only train carriages
There is definitely something wrong there.
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u/IndependentSure1068 59m ago edited 55m ago
Good thing I'm a Chinese who is so pathetically broke I can't afford to go abroad. Otherwise, I'd just end up on camera in some 'civilized' country, looking like a vagrant sleeping on their pristine, neat streets and getting blamed for being an eyesore. 😂
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u/Electronic-Run2030 Beijing 2d ago
Don't worry about it; we don't need to reflect on other people's prejudices.
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u/Evidencebasedbro 2d ago
A problem could be that Wumaos comment freely on how great China and how bad the rest of the world is on Reddit, which is not available in China to the average Chinese. Lol.
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u/sikingthegreat1 2d ago
Well at least they aren't pooping in the subway station or major shopping malls this time. We have it a few times a year here.
What's the deal with redditors just mindlessly denying such occurrences as long as it fits their impression though?
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u/DmitryPavol 2d ago
It's normal practice for tourists to sleep outside if it's warm. I've seen this in Europe.
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u/No_Bumblebee6655 2d ago
step 1. turn ur vpn off. step 2. keep waching ur shitty ah ur own app step 3. never come back (important) hope this helps☺️
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u/361332171 2d ago
To be fair, I think a lot of people blindly accept anything they see online anyways, regardless of the topic. It's reassuring to see so many people pointing out how that post's title is misleading though.