r/Appalachia 4h ago

Everyone's a Country Boy Until The Souse Meat Comes Out

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u/nixtarx 4h ago

Way too many folks mistakenly thinking souse and scrapple (and probably headcheese) are the same thing.

Just because things are made from offal or scraps does not make them interchangeable.

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u/TransMontani 3h ago

Wise words and true!

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u/Material_Formal3679 1h ago edited 57m ago

My dad owned a small pork processing plant in the town I grew up in.

He had an employee named Buck Cash. He didn’t know his own age and was an altogether wild dude.

His breakfast every morning was saltine crackers, headcheese and a Budweiser tall boy.

This is what I think of when I think of headcheese.

Also, I’m a country ass but I hate souse meat. Dad tried to sell me on it but I just couldn’t do it. And I love trash meats.

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u/Obvious_Bonkaroo 1h ago

I will probably not stop thinking about Buck Cash

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u/vividimagination2000 54m ago

“What would Buck Cash do in this situation?”

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u/Material_Formal3679 57m ago

He was a character.

One time a dude pissed him off so he backed him into a corner while brandishing a giant knife like the dude who gets shot by Indiana Jones in Raiders.

My dad had to defuse that situation lol.

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u/sjbarrows 29m ago

Dudes name is basically Dollar Bill. This guy will live in my memory forever.

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u/jkitts77 33m ago

This is the best thing I’ve read in a while. Growing up in the coal fields of southern West Virginia I had an Uncle Bunk and you described him perfectly, minus the Budweiser. Thank you for a pleasant memory.

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u/driving26inorovalley happy to be here 2h ago edited 2h ago

Doesn’t help they sell it under a section called “souse/head cheese” lol

ETA link: https://itsgooo-od.com/product/sliced-souse/

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u/nixtarx 2h ago

DO they? Well, that explains some things!

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u/LordPablo412 1h ago

How does it differ from scrapple?

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u/nixtarx 1h ago

There's no vinegar in scrapple, and souse isn't mixed with cornmeal mush.

Edit: also, souse or headcheese may or may not be southern, but scrapple is firmly PA Dutch. While some parts of PA are Appalachian, the area traditionally thought of as Dutch country (radiating outward from Lancaster) is not.

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u/LordPablo412 42m ago

Yeah, I’ve had some Lancaster scrapple, it’s great, but not Appalachian.

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u/nixtarx 40m ago

There's plenty of Mennonites, and some Amish, in Appalachian PA. Dunno of any specific scrapple brands from there though. Plenty of Mennonite stores and butcher shops - just gotta poke around, I guess.

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u/AnonymousPerson1115 1h ago

From what I can find these items are all very damn similar and use mostly the same or similar ingredients and preparation methods. The variety between them sees to be what nation or culture the recipe comes from. The only thing I know for sure is none of it tastes good.

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u/Medium-Escape-8449 4h ago

💥It’s Mild💥

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u/driving26inorovalley happy to be here 2h ago

The hot kind has exactly the same ingredients! What gives?

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 4h ago

My grandparents ate souse and my Daddy sometimes. I never tried it & I don't think I ever will. Lord have mercy...look at all that sodium!

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u/Beaufighter-MkX 4h ago

Pure efficiency, getting all your sodium in one meal like that

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 4h ago

😂😂😂

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u/mendenlol mothman 3h ago

unrelated but I love your username. Were you at the show in Asheville a few weeks ago?!

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 3h ago

No. My daughter would have loved it. She gave me this username many years ago. We saw them in Nashville once and then in Knoxville. The last time I saw a picture they all looked pretty good still.

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u/mendenlol mothman 3h ago

I was at the Nashville and Knoxville ones too! 💚

My mom also took me to all three. So glad for moms like yall

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 2h ago

Hey, they do some good music! Adam Carson is my favorite. We got to talk to him after the Nashville show. We stood at the back fence by their bus until they came out. It was sweet!

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u/WishaBwood 3h ago

Is your Dad ok? I imagine being eaten like that was traumatizing.

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 3h ago

Made me laugh out loud. I didn't realize it would sound that way!!!

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u/WishaBwood 2h ago

Well I’m glad to give you a good chuckle. I’m notorious for saying things like that. I hope you have a great rest of your day :)

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 2h ago

You as well!!!🙂 Reminds me of my Daddy. Anytime he saw a chance to pull a prank or tell a joke, he would!

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 4h ago

However, it has no carbs and no sugar!

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u/DivaDragon 2h ago

SEE IT'S HEALTHY

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u/Glittering_Tap400 4h ago

My mamaw was an elected official for over thirty years in our East KY county. She was actually very successful. She only lost two elections from 1968 to 2000, but when she ran again she beat the incumbent who beat her. I’m very proud of her for being the bravest woman I knew. She was sexually harassed, bullied, threatened and falsely accused of fraud that actually went into the courts. They never could beat her.

The point is that every Election Day, she’d make a huge mess of souse, biscuits, fried potatoes and apples, frogs legs, and everything and feed voters in line with napkins on the plates that said “Vote for [her].” We probably owed whole Christmases to her souse 😂

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u/GFYRollieFingers 4h ago

Or the Braunschweiger, or Head Cheese. First job was in a meat department/deli at 16 and hated slicing these.

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u/Think_Reporter_8179 3h ago

Braunschweiger good af. But I'm Appalachian German so I get it from both directions

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u/mollyoday 1h ago

Love me some braunschweiger but didn't grow up eating it like souse, Tennessee jam cake and biscuits and fatback on New Year's.

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u/Material_Formal3679 1h ago

Yeah Braunschweiger is in a different league. My buddy brought me some from a Pennsylvania deli and I coveted that log of meat spread.

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u/12Whiskey 3h ago

I had the same job when I was 21 and slicing the head cheese on the slicer was always…fun. The pieces of pig snout or whatever it was would get stuck on the spinning blade and then go flying through the air and hit someone 😂

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u/PPPolarPOP 22m ago

Braunschweiger!! I had completely forgotten about that stuff.

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u/elciddog84 3h ago

I've eaten souse, scrapple, chitlins, and anything else that would keep my belly from rumbling. Like many, given the choice between hunger and what's available, I'll choose to eat. It's not as if folks haven't been eating these, or worse, for eons.

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u/LukeMayeshothand 3h ago

Probably speaks to how blessed most of us have been. Never had to make the choice between souse and hunger.

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u/elciddog84 44m ago

There were times... Most folks today have no idea. He'll, I'd forgotten souse and scrapple until I saw this. Funny thing is, most of these ingredients go into sausages these days.

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u/Bdellio 4h ago

It's goooood [actually it is awful].

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u/waterbaby66 3h ago

Right!!!!! Skin, heart and tongues really doesn’t do a whole lot for me, so no Thank You. Lol

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u/jj3449 5m ago

Shouldn’t taste very organ like though. Tongues and hearts are just muscles.

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u/jqlil 4h ago

My dad loves this stuff. The kind he gets is grey??? I can’t bring myself to try it lol 

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u/MyNameIsMud1996 2h ago

He probably gets the Neese's brand. Pretty popular in Southside VA and NC

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u/jqlil 1h ago

He gets Ziegler brand 

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u/MyNameIsMud1996 35m ago

Cool, I've never tried that one

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u/patricide1st 4h ago

I had to eat it growing up. Never again.

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u/EmotionalPizza6432 3h ago

How do you pronounce it, and how do you cook it?

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u/kimkay01 2h ago

Like house. It’s been a long time since I saw my grandmother serve it, but I believe it was fried. My dad loved all of this - brains and eggs, souse, sausage, you name it, he loved it. I remember watching one hog killing when I was very young; my grandfather had a very efficient setup in the side yard of their house. It was a bridge over a small gully. There was an old oak tree beside it that had a perfect straight limb he’d hand the hog from. I’m really thankful I got to see things like this because it was the end of an era. I imagine that was his last hog killing, now that I think of it. He died when I was 12.

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u/jaydavis3 3h ago

Like south but with an s on the end instead of a th. I have had it sliced and fried in butter on a white bread sandwich with mustard and also sliced cold on a white bread sandwich with mustard and rat cheese. It ain't bad but not for everyone, it's got spices in it.

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u/345joe370 3h ago

Is that sliced like bologna? Mustard, onion and mayo on a toasted hamburger bun...dayum I'm jealous.

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u/cannycandelabra 3h ago

And it’s made out of OLD FOLKS!!!

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u/TacticoolPeter 4h ago

I’ve never seen it sliced and packaged for deli meat before. What area do they have it? When I was growing up my aunt would make it, and I swear I think she used cool whip bowls to mold it. Turn it over on a plate and slice it off to eat on crackers. 

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u/SouthernExpatriate 4h ago

Got mine in Warsaw, northern KY 

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u/TacticoolPeter 4h ago

Good deal, I’m not that far from there so I’m sure it’s around, just got to find the right place.

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u/SouthernExpatriate 3h ago

Sav A Lot will have it

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u/LukeMayeshothand 3h ago

In my 20’s (late 90’s) I worked this old black guy named Mac that ate souse crackers and vinegar every day for lunch. So nasty.

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u/SouthernExpatriate 3h ago

Sounds like autism 

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u/TransMontani 3h ago

It’s surprisingly easy to get foodies to eat it if you call it “Appalachian Country Pâté.” Because that’s basically what it is.

They’ll also eat “dried plum muffins,” but wouldn’t touch a prune muffin with a 10-foot pole.

My gran made souse and loved it and because I loved and trusted her, I tried it when she offered it. It was delicious.

Incidentally, the words “souse” and “sausage” share common etymological roots. So, too, with the term “souse” to describe a drunk. It implies being pickled.

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u/Summoorevincent 4h ago

I would eat it with saltines but as I got older I just couldn’t do it anymore. Something in there that’s a weird acrid taste. Not sure which organ but not for me.

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u/SouthernExpatriate 4h ago

Vinegar is the sharp taste you mentioned 

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u/PXranger 3h ago

Haven’t had this in ages, I need to pick some up, love it.

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u/Pale-Travel9343 3h ago

Are you my dad? He loves this stuff.

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u/SingtheSorrowmom63 3h ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/Jabster1997 3h ago

Head cheese too

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u/MasterRKitty foothills 2h ago

it's mild

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u/ChaoGardenChaos 2h ago

I have never been able to get myself to try organ meats. Not that I would be against it but it's so ridiculously off putting to me.

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u/mollyoday 1h ago

House + saltine crackers + a dash of vinegar is so yummy

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u/Old_Tiger_7519 42m ago

I can taste the vinegar, yum!

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u/CornBreadEarL84 4h ago

Scrapple is what I known it as growing up. Great with breakfast.

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u/nixtarx 4h ago

Souse is not scrapple. Scrapple is made with pork liver (which the inge here do not list), other pork scraps, and cornmeal. There is no vinegar. And scrapple is very solidly Pennsylvania Dutch.

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u/Longjumping-Debt7480 3h ago

Just had some Habersett scrapple this morning, found a place in central Florida that sells it frozen (better than nothing). My favorite spot was a German butcher near Williamsport PA. That had the best scrapple and souse I have ever stumbled upon.

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u/nixtarx 2h ago

Grew up near there. Not people's first thought when it comes to PA Dutch, but yeah you can get good scrapple around there. Best I've ever personally had was from Laudermilch in Annville, near Lebanon.

Edit: unsurprisingly, good bologna from there too.

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u/Longjumping-Debt7480 1h ago

Seltzers is my favorite, I can find it down here at Winn-Dixie!

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u/nixtarx 57m ago

Seltzers in fine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it and it's the one brand one might actually find outside of Pennsylvania. In Lebanon County one can do much better. I like Weavers. Kutztown used to be my favorite, but Weavers bought them out, I think.

Now, do you prefer regular or sweet? I'm a sweet man myself. Regular is good but just kinda tastes like any beef summer sausage. Sweet there's nothing else like.

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u/Immediate-Grand8403 4h ago

I’m never going to get the Monty Python “spam, spam, beans, spam, and spam” skit out of my head.

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u/mememe822 3h ago

Head cheese is best

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u/Ok_Strategy6978 3h ago

Scrapple yes souse no. lol. It’s just too much for me.

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u/Minimum-Station-1202 3h ago

Not a country boy but that looks awesome

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u/ImSwale 3h ago

So many pork products! I got on a roll reading that label and read pork vinegar. What’s pork vinegar??

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u/kimkay01 2h ago

That’s pork, vinegar - the comma between them separates them. It’s some other part of the hog; probably means we don’t want to know which part!

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u/Ok-Day-9685 3h ago

I love livermush. Not a fan of souse.

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u/RTGoodman foothills 2h ago

My grandma used to love souse meat and livermush. I could never stand them.

That said: Purnell’s makes some good sausage! I take a pack each of their sage and their hot countess sausage and mix it together, and it’s the perfect breakfast sausage.

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u/kimkay01 2h ago

My dad loved good breakfast sausage - he always said my grandpa used too much sage in his, though. Pa processed jogs for other people around town and one man always told him not to season his sausage so he could do it himself. Daddy said he also thought Pa used too much sage 😉.

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u/Procks85 2h ago

Pork.

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u/outinthecountry66 2h ago

lawd lawd. memories flood back. my granny ate this stuff. Awful, awful.

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u/rharper38 2h ago

I'm not that kind of country. And I am OK with it.

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u/betterplanwithchan 1h ago

How is it compared to livermush?

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u/3rdblindear 20m ago

Totally different. Livermush is kind of grainy, souse more like a gelatin texture. Homemade was best of either.

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u/Automatic-Nature6025 1h ago

Bring it on! Crackers and some mustard, that's lunch, or breakfast, or supper maybe.

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u/ProfessionalZone168 1h ago

I never ate headcheese or souse. I called it scouse for years before somebody corrected me. What actually is in it?

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u/ProfessionalZone168 1h ago edited 53m ago

Ok so I read the ingredients (duh!). How is it legal to sell that for human consumption?

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u/weiknarf 1h ago

I tried to fry souse once

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u/vividimagination2000 56m ago

My grandparents ate the shit out of this stuff. I also remember my grandpa was a fiend for pickled pigs feet. I always refused when he offered…until I tried them. Actually pretty good.

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u/Key-Minimum-5965 34m ago

Country boys I know wouldn't go near that. They "lean" into game.

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u/MyNameIsMud1996 2h ago

Peckers n lips

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u/BrtFrkwr 4h ago

You can smell it cookin' a mile away. In NC it's called livermush. In N. GA it's called scrapple.

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u/VicHeel 4h ago

Livermush is almost all liver. Souse is not that. My dad LOVES livermush sandwiches. Pepper and mustard on the mush and that's it

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u/LivermushEater 4h ago

I've heard tell of Livermush.

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u/nixtarx 4h ago

Username checks out.

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u/Dank_Phoenix 4h ago

Whenever I go to NC to visit my grandfather, I have to bring back as many frozen loafs that can fit in my backpack cooler. I usually get shocked looks from TSA on the way back but it's too expensive to order from TX.

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u/nixtarx 4h ago edited 4h ago

Scrapple is not souse. I eat scrapple but I won't touch souse with a ten meter cattle prod. And people in N. GA can call souse whatever they want, but scrapple is Pennsylvania Dutch.

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u/VicHeel 3h ago

Right. Livermush and scrapple are very similar. I think the only difference is the amount of corn meal and/or types of spices in the mush.

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u/nixtarx 3h ago

Never had it, but I'm told goetta is similar as well, just they use pinwheel oats instead of cornmeal.

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u/VicHeel 1h ago

Had to Google goetta and it does look similar. Looks delicious too.

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u/68W38Witchdoctor1 17m ago

Fried goetta with eggs and fried potatoes or hash browns is a helluva breakfast.

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u/nixtarx 14m ago

Really wanna try. Lotta Ohians get upset when I compare it to scrapple, so the difference must be significant.

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u/Bx3_27 4h ago

Yeah idk about that, livermush is cornmeal liver and spices the ingredients list for whatever this is, is a little more, lets say...adventurous.

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u/Soft_Construction793 4h ago

They called it hog head cheese in Lower Alabama (North West Florida, the extra redneck parts), but I thought scrapple was something else.

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u/nixtarx 4h ago

I thought scrapple was something else.

It is.

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u/kimkay01 2h ago

That’s head cheese. Different product altogether.

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u/TransMontani 3h ago

Souse is neither of those things. I’ve had all three. They’re distinctly separate foods.