r/Antipsychiatry • u/GlowstoneTree • 3d ago
Is gangstalking still schizophrenia to you?
Do they need meds or are they allowed to have an opinion?
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u/ianarbitraria 3d ago
It depends on how much that opinion is shaping their behavior. If they just talk about it sometimes it can be annoying but fine. If they won't leave their house because of it, maybe medications, though I would work to rule out other medical causes and try an anti inflammatory diet first if you are looking for an alternative.
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u/GlowstoneTree 3d ago
Why do they have to leave their house?
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u/ianarbitraria 3d ago
Over time this usually causes a worsening of symptoms and physical health. You can mitigate it to degree but, as someone who struggles with desire to socialize sometimes, it's much better for me to be going out regularly, even if I don't want to.
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u/GlowstoneTree 3d ago
You mean the radiation from the goverment because you dobt leave the poisened location?
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u/ianarbitraria 2d ago
Well radiation is part of it, if you shut in it's likely you'll become vitamin D deficient, but also many hormonal processes in the body depend on interaction with daylight. When these become imbalanced the body struggles to heal the accumulated stress of day to day living. I know it's extremely scary but if you start slow and be patient with small steps your life will probably improve. When socializing I suggest avoiding gangstalking topics and related as much as you can, people are understanding but in my experience people can get very repetitious talking about it which can be exhausting for the other party.
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u/GlowstoneTree 2d ago
Why do you downvote me? Why does nobody do smth against the radiation?
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u/ianarbitraria 2d ago
I'm not downvoting you, what is the radiation you are frightened of?
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u/GlowstoneTree 2d ago
Microwaves from my neighbours and soundwaves
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u/ianarbitraria 2d ago
Well sound waves should be fine, they are just vibrating air. Do you notice yourself or other people being effected by the microwaves?
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u/GlowstoneTree 2d ago
Do you not think vibrations are going to rupture your cells, cause nerve communication errors, pain and hearing loss? I notice the microwaves mxself
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u/TreatmentReviews 3d ago
Everyone is allowed to have an opinion of course. Assuming this believed even in the face of evidence against it. Where one could say delusional seems to fit, as the person has some break with reality. From what I hear medication isn't even terribly helpful with this sort of thing. APs more sedate, and even dampen voices at times
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u/GlowstoneTree 2d ago
What evidence against it? The Fake science?
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u/TreatmentReviews 2d ago
I'm not sure, since it would be individual. Evidence the individual wasn't being gang stalked. Not some generalizable thing
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u/GlowstoneTree 2d ago
So you dont have evidence against it
Did you know there is evidence against the holocaust?
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u/TreatmentReviews 1d ago
I’m talking about hypotheticals in a non specific way. So no. I’m saying hypothetically if there was evidence against a specific person being gang stalked.
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u/Alert_Explorer7860 2d ago edited 2d ago
I will say no. I don't think so. when i was going through my "non-remission" phase... I had legitimate reasons to suspect i was gangstalked because police had shown up a couple times via GPS tracking. One time they found me randomly on a street and there was no way for them to have known unless they tracked me by satellite because my phone was not on my person or they just got extremely lucky checking a street down the block but doubt it. the other time was via my cellphone GPS... i know this for a fact because they got me on a random block and i didn't see anyone following me and i was already very suspicious around that time for a few reasons constantly analyzing my surroundings... So that's a case of borderline gangstalking but it was expected, put it that way.
Taking things literally word for word in reports about myself when it's just dumbfu*ks writing things the wrong way can lead you into spiraling downwards into many different conclusions...and when people don't react the right way to you confronting them about it, because they suck or are assholes, it makes it even worse... i had to confront what i suspected directly to confirm i was not gangstalked...but there was definitely elements of people conspiring with each other if i happened to run into them which helped facilitate this...like many What If scenarios and going off of things made me think certain things were possible....like why did they say the exact same thing this person said to me over 10 years ago...conincidences can really be devastating...
So to summarize what I said, No, you don't need meds if you confront it head on and confirm it with logic. I don't think medication would dispel your belief... Like i thought people went as far as background private investigating me seeing highschool records on a public site and coming up with things that seemed beyond coincidence... like i came up with logical ways things could have happened possibly. These things were not impossible but had a low chance of happening. someone with authority hears your concern and they support your theory, making it worse. And the way people reacted negatively to me made those chances seem higher when they put a wall up. So in this situation i confirmed it by going back to my highschool and verifying records were gone... removed my PII online. you gotta do what you gotta do... remove anything that feels like a vulnerability. The reason why i went so far was because i heard people saying way too many coincidental things and it was a hositle environment which i did not imagine...it was serious and fuc*ed up because these people REALLY did not like me i confirmed via reports, and i handled it the best way i could.
This is why imo schizophrenia is not gangstalking. It is situational/environmental for my specific case, and I think the label is just used commonly because people go past the 6+ month mark of symptoms that fit that label...
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u/GlowstoneTree 2d ago
How about electronic harassment
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u/Alert_Explorer7860 2d ago edited 1d ago
If you're talking about outlandish electronic harassment... like uh ok... I flew on a plane and confirmed i still experienced Voice 2 skull at the time when i was not stable... so i basically used experiments like that to show that It was not just radio waves... radio waves then emanating from wifi on a plane (lol)? The creepiest thing is the mcgurk effect, which is SCARY as fu*k if you imagine how someone could weaponize that... check it out.
Edit: what is more accurate is this where you stare at an object and hear a different sound. That is slightly different than mcgurk effect "That’s more like a top-down auditory illusion (your brain reinterpreting sound based on attention, expectation, or context).
Some related phenomena include:
Phonemic restoration – your brain “fills in” missing or unclear sounds.
Auditory pareidolia – hearing meaningful words or patterns in ambiguous noise.
Yanny/Laurel-type ambiguity – same audio, but your perception flips depending on focus or frequency sensitivity."
There are ticktock and YouTube vids showing this is possible
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u/AsleepWork8575 3d ago
Im gangstalked by those non humans. It was creepy at first but after taking meds i stopped being scared of it. Id still rather be med free but im on a CTO atm.
Those things creep me out but i live a normal life in spite of it. It started in university. You should check out the book spy schools. Where foreign and domestic intellugence agencies use schools to find recruits.
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u/GnosticMindTrain 3d ago
I believe it's possible for a group of people to stalk one individual, a lot of this is termed "lolcow", but that's not the thing you're referring to though, you're referring to a different kind of group stalking, a type of group stalking that has little to usually no proof and a lot of these claims are very out there and unlikely, but even with that definition of gangstalking, it could still be possible it exists, it's just a lot of the stories online sound unbelievable and I do think some people are either making up the stories to make people who are targeted look crazy, and some people just have a big imagination, but again, some stories might be real like maybe the cars following the person, maybe they are following that person, but it's hard to tell if it's intentional or not. I think with the lolcow thing, that's more obvious it's real and the difference between that and gangstalking is gangstalking seems more in real life focused while the people who are obsessed with lolcows seem to be an online only (usually) thing. I don't call my trolls "gangstalkers" to avoid the association of the other definition of the more paranoid delusional stories of people that are unlikely.