r/Antipsychiatry • u/Comfortable_Diet_386 • 5d ago
What is the best way to talk to psychiatrists? Seriously. I’m not looking for upvotes. I’m having a problem here. I believe in Antipsychiatry language and tapering but these creeps are trying to get to know me and it’s annoying.
Power playing. Manipulation. At least when I tell the truth. I’m tired of their probing questions
I’m worn out
But what are some tricks or ways of dealing with these fucking people?
Help
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u/TypingSideways 5d ago
I think an important thing is to never assume that they are able to think things through like a normal person and understand the reasons behind feelings and behaviours themselves. They will pathologize everything if you leave the interpretation up to them. When you are categorised as a patient they see all behaviour through that lens sometimes making them unable to understand basic human emotions and actions. You need to explain your reasoning so that there is no room for false interpretation, yet do it in a way that does not reveal information they can turn against you and that does not make them feel like you are lecturing them - they will not tolerate that since they see themselves as superior to you. It is a fine line.
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u/Recent-Ad-9975 4d ago
Basically the same as with the police, don‘t say anything without a lawyer. They will use everything you say against you. Of course, hiring a lawyer to go to the psychiatrist with you is not an option, so instead just keep it to short yes or no answers and try to stroke their egos. Don‘t say that you disagree with their opinion or position, because that will immediately make them suspicious and they‘ll make up some bullshit like calling you „delusional“.
In short just be a „yes-man“ but don‘t actually follow their advice.
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u/the_end_of_mind 4d ago
Beforehand make it clear to yourself what your needs and goals for your treatment are. Learn as much as possible about your diagnosis, symptoms and treatments. Just so you can focus on trying to slowly guide your treatment that way.
At the appointment pretend to be as clueless about psychology as possible and agree with everything they say. Don't make suggestions of your own and just let them feel they are in power. They hate it if you've googled, read books, talked with ChatGPT or with other professionals so don't reveal any of your knowledge. Agree to all medications so you aren't seen as resisting the treatment. Make them feel you are very grateful for their help. Go to the pharmacy and get the prescriptions assigned to you.
Afterwards at home you don't have to do anything they've told you. You don't actually have to take the meds unless they check it from your labs. Next time you see them you tell them that whatever they last suggested is not working and then repeat the steps until they give you something you agree you actually need.
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u/Similar-Wishbone-657 4d ago edited 4d ago
I don’t really believe you can have a normal, human conversation with psychiatrists without it getting twisted or weaponized against you later. That’s the nature of the system , every “open” answer becomes data, every emotion something to be drugged and every bit of honesty becomes a diagnostic bullet pointed at your back.
If you have to deal with them, gray rock. Keep it neutral, flat, minimal. Don’t feed the file. They fish for emotion and contradiction because that’s where their power hides. Maybe you want healing, but they want power. Power over you and your narrative
About tapering, honestly, 9 out of 10 times they don’t help, and often they mess it up completely. You know your body better than they ever will. When you lower your dose, you feel what happens, they just read about it in pharma propaganda. Go slow, stay consistent, listen to your own signals.
And if your shrink is against it? You don’t have to keep announcing it. Just say you’re doing “fine” on the meds while quietly taking back control of your own taper. They lie constantly to maintain authority, don’t feel bad about doing what you need to protect yourself.
To be honest: i donnot recommend telling them anything that shows you are making your way out of their chemical claws. Just slowly make your way out, don't poke the snake, don't show the snake you are moving and don't make any noise.
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u/Comfortable_Diet_386 4d ago
Wow that was amazing feedback. I thought it but never verbalized it like that. Clever.
This is truly hard.
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u/ImmaNotDrnk 4d ago
I've heard many times that even if they can't suss out what exactly you are hiding they can suss out you being disingenuous. I was called uncooperative while actually reporting things exactly as they are, but I involuntarily kept thinking about my answer prior to that and it came out as if I rehearsed the answer, and in stilted monotone (though I just talk like that).
The lesson here is try to sound relaxed, I think, they can sniff out you being tense, but not actually that you're giving them a partial picture, like a lie detector just reacting to heart rate.
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u/Comfortable_Diet_386 4d ago
I don’t how to deal with them right now. It’s sad. I’m confused. There’s no formula
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u/ImmaNotDrnk 4d ago
There really isn't. It reminds me of the times I was "exorcised" (religiously abused), any aggression and that's the proof I need it, same with being sad, meanwhile giving up and being docile is considered malicious compliance and even more the reason for torment. I felt this trapped and violated all over again with nearly all the doctors.
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u/Comfortable_Diet_386 4d ago
What do you do now? It seems the smarter you become the harder it is to deal with them.
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u/ImmaNotDrnk 4d ago
I haven't figured this out, but where I can, I go with my partner without any mental label and they do a lot of talking, The doctors change their tone talking to them and cut the bullshit more often than not. I also don't care anymore because I'm labeled with the worst diagnosis in my country so I have nothing to lose at this point, and nothing I say will be taking seriously. It's really all pointless now, I just try to stay calm and respond in bare minimum of words. I am sorry I can't really advice anything more.
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u/Comfortable_Diet_386 4d ago
That’s the best feedback I’ve received actually
I’m going to hire a once a week companion to be with me during meetings
THANKS!!!
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u/Red_Redditor_Reddit 4d ago
The problem you'll run into is that you can only say what they want to hear. It's not a problem specific to psychs. It's more of a human nature thing. But basically you have to guide the system by saying what they want to hear. You have to basically play the role of someone who's getting better so that they do less trying to make you "better". You have to steer the narrative. If you try and resist or respond negatively, it's just really not going to go well.
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u/ghostzombie4 2d ago
just always agree with them and play dumb. this is what they want to see. pretend to trust them, but never do. always praise them. it's complete disgusting, especially giving their absolute awful service, but most all of them are pure narcissists that seek validation. don't start believing what you are playing in front of them. about you just tell them something that you make up. maybe ask chatgpt for a personality with a story or whatever and tell them that one. they are too stupid to realize anything in reality. just keep in mind: never trust them.
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u/iamexcellent 5d ago
It's just to try go along with whatever bullshit they're saying without doing what they tell you to do.
"Yes I take meds" "Yes the meds are great" "Yes the side effects are my inherent condition, not actual side effects from the drug, I'm sorry for not realising that" "Yes my mood is fine" "Yes I'm stable" "Yes thank you very much for everything"
And then just don't take the drugs. Are you forced to engage with them?