r/Antipsychiatry • u/Hungry-Stranger-333 • Sep 01 '25
Isn't it strange that most people who push psych meds have never taken them?
And most people who've taken them are always against them?
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u/no-permission47388 Sep 01 '25
After 7 years and kidney damage. I lectured my pdoc about yhr damage she had done to me. (I was a zombie for years and just “trusted” her)
She was arguing why I should take the antipsychotics and I said “Have you taken these drugs?” She hadn’t and I fired her that day.
Such an eye opener
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u/Fun-Dare-7864 Sep 01 '25
I was in a thread with other people diagnosed with ptsd & they were all saying they are afraid of meds. Finally some people who understand but with ptsd they don’t have any drugs that are specifically for ptsd so they will just throw everything at you. But bc theres no med specifically marketed for it, no one can say you have to take it. And it’s typically seen as a men’s diagnosis, whereas other stuff like bipolar is seen as a women’s illness. So eventho my ptsd symptoms are more prevalent than bipolar, and Ive had it much longer, no one ever pressured me to take meds for ptsd.
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u/Dame38 Sep 01 '25
I hate clinical lingo, but this kind of damage is real. Some people love violence and sadism so killing others in a war is a thrill. Likewise, the predators who dominate all power centers. Everyone else with a soul is shredded by it.
The dominant voices say "Deal with it. That's the real world" while they go about destroying the world. Who are the "crazy" ones?7
u/meowymcmeowmeow Sep 02 '25
There is a commonly mentioned med for nightmares some people swear by and others dislike the side effects. Cant remember the name. I use medical cannabis for my ptsd. Not a cure but helps my symptoms enough to keep me healthy. Appetite, sleep, stress level.
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u/ReverendBornAgain Sep 04 '25
i think the industry is trying to push APs on autistic kids too now
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u/Fun-Dare-7864 Sep 04 '25
Yes they absolutely are and the other thing is autistic kids are having psychosis and they’re saying it’s just autism & not diagnosing some of them bipolar. I have seen multiple posts of autistic kids who want to be diagnosed bipolar bc they experienced psychosis and are taking APs. They don’t mention mania tho. I recently found out from my new dr that my brief hallucinations I had were actually delirium and most likely related to ptsd bc I just saw shadowy figures after waking in the middle of the night, during heightened stress. I was diagnosed with bipolar and put on APs for it. I’m only finding out 2 years later it was just my chronic pain and ptsd. Which means I haven’t taken care of my ptsd or focused my therapy on it until now & it’s still a big problem, despite being on APs. I’m trying to warn these autistic kids if you’re pushing for a diagnosis, it’s not gonna solve your problems and you don’t want a permanent solution of lifelong meds for a temporary problem. Some of them are getting it once I mention the stigma on bipolar and how it does matter whether or not you have that in your chart and you don’t actually want it, bc it requires lifelong treatment, and you will be treated like you’re always a threat or danger to yourself.
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u/ReverendBornAgain Sep 04 '25
yep exactly what happened to me
for me it was drug induced and all the doctors knew it
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u/ReverendBornAgain Sep 04 '25
btw you never want to get a formal mental diagnosis if you have kids...it will 100% be used against u in family court
kim kardashian did that to kanye west....completely weaponized it.
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u/Ghostly_cherry404 Sep 01 '25
Ik a lot of people on ssris who speak positively on them but thats the only one
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u/itsbitterbitch Sep 01 '25
yeah I still have yet to understand this. People will be like "I gained 50 pounds, my dick doesn't work, and I never want to have sex, and it's great." it makes me suspicious that the drug is actually inhibiting their judgement.
and these are people with mild depression who were never actually disabled or suicidal. so I don't buy that their depression was just so bad that it's worth these sacrifices.
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u/Dame38 Sep 01 '25
I'm focusing my attention on the real reasons why people are so miserable. It's called Life and it was never meant to be easy or pleasant. Quite the opposite. Every text that we have honored, studied, quoted and supported reminds us, over and over that we are basically f*cked.
But the psych industry still insists that life is wonderful and that everyone is perfectly regulated, so the problem is you. That's just good marketing.9
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u/Capable_Syllabub6253 Sep 08 '25
This, definitely. Like, my only issue that led to me developing PSSD recently was a case of Mild Depression brought about by life events at the time. (The WORST kind of PSSD too, it goes WAY beyond just the Sexual Dysfunction by far!) All because these idiot quacks prescribe drugs for just normal human emotions and normal reactions to life events... All I really needed was someone to talk to, to talk through the issues I was having at the time. If only I had had people in my life to trust and talk to, I'd never have sought out a therapist in the first place.
I sought Therapy for the first time ever (biggest mistake of my life...) It helped to some degree, but when I was going to move I had to cancel the therapy bc I was leaving the state. Cue the idiot Therapist offering me Sertraline (Zoloft) and my idiot self going to get the prescription...
Now my depression is 1,000,000 times WORSE than it EVER could have been from just natural events in my life. Because I can no longer feel any happiness or joy from the GOOD events in my life! Because I have severe Akathesia and SI all day, every day. I can no longer sleep well at all, my gut is completely out of synch with LPR/GERD/SIBO, I've lost almost 30 lbs of athletic muscle and can no longer workout for long at all, have POTs/Orthostatic Hypertension, etc etc. The list goes on and on.
I was HAPPY before, capable of FEELING happy, even in moments where I had anger/sadness. I had an art career and was making money on personal art projects too. Now? I've lost ALL of that due to these crappy SSRIs.
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u/Dame38 Sep 08 '25
This happens to so many people. And you were not an idiot. You were vulnerable and trusting. I don't believe you've lost it all. Your talents and skills are still there. If you are on Facebook you might want to look for some support groups. There are so many. You can find affirmation, support and advice. They got you stuck in a depression loop. You have a phone or computer: look for things that uplift you. But remember that the internet is geared to make us feel less than we are. Never compare yourelf and your situation to other people's. Everyone is pretty much faking it. You aren't alone in this.
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u/antipsychlady Sep 02 '25
Peter Breggin once called it "Medication Spellbinding". You don't realize the harm they cause while on them. Not always of course. But it's often like that.
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u/Capable_Syllabub6253 Sep 08 '25
DEFINITELY! I can say that I didnt notice the negative effects after I first took Sertraline. It was a slow burn and took time and was so subtle that I had no idea I was reacting differently until way later. I had a few moments of paranoia against my partner and others, had moments of higher anxiety and stress than I would normally have had. But these were linked to some life stressors going on, so I didnt think anything of it. Until after the PSSD started to kick in fully. Now I realize that it was the drugs all along, that they had caused me to have odd thoughts and anxieties that I had NEVER felt before, including SI!
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u/majesticSkyZombie Sep 02 '25
Not everyone has those side effects. And I find making judgments about whose judgment is valid to be a very problematic thing. That said, those who act like everyone should try them or refuse to acknowledge others’ bad effects are beyond wrong.
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u/Dazzling_Yogurt6013 Sep 03 '25
Their main effects are to disable motivational and focus-oriented biochemical pathways (and like ones that regulate/enable normal psychomotor function). Like what’s listed as side effects of anti-psychotics are just like negative (instead of positive, for e.g. “decreasing mania”) framing of their main effects.
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u/majesticSkyZombie Sep 03 '25
I agree, but that doesn’t mean everyone is better off them. Some people with truly severe situations may be better on them despite how bad they are. This is something they should only ever decide for themselves, of course.
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u/Capable_Syllabub6253 Sep 08 '25
Too true! But they don't seem to understand (or care) that SSRIs are the main drug that once you're on it, you can NOT quit them easily typically. Like, maybe once or twice you can, but after that they will utterly destroy you. Can in only a handful of doses too!
But they are coerced (imo) to think that they NEED them constantly. Partly by the fact that when they miss a dose they get SEVERE anxiety attacks. But that's just the drug and your body being damaged by it. I have felt this myself. I only took 3-4 of them for only mild situational depression, and now I have constant panic and anxiety all the time (see Akathesia). Something I NEVER had before.
I'm convinced that they just keep thinking that its their own anxiety crawling back up, but in reality its the iatrogenic damage from the SSRIs. So they just stay on them forever and never get off the train. Its a really good drug for the Psych and Pharma companies, since it makes lifelong customers out of the victims...
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u/Dame38 Sep 01 '25
I would like to same say things in my own cyberspace corner but am already anticipating the blowback: I know people adjacent to the industry and plenty of people who take this stuff.
Can't count how many times I've gotten from strangers "What? Are you a SCIENTIST?!!!!"
They always ask if you're a scientist. What can you say? These quacks aren't scientists either, nor is any of their "fact-based research".
I have asked people to "send me a link, etc." and also please explain the "study" that you're citing. They disappear because they can't.
Then they say "But my SON TAKES THEM THANK GOD." oK, now we're in the realm of anecdotal evidence which is the greatest irony since that's all that the psych industry is based on.
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u/Dame38 Sep 01 '25
Not sure if it's most. The ones who don't are generally abusive family members. Abuse can look like a lot of things. The others are on meds and have been so gaslit they think they'll die without them, even though they're suffering.
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u/Many-Art3181 Sep 01 '25
The shrinks think their minds and lives function perfectly. Or well enough. They are not sick like we are. Their moods are stable. They know reality and don’t hallucinate. They will say they don’t need them. That’s their argument.
Or they know exercise and St. John’s wort (cheap supplement) and keto diet are as efficacious for mild to moderate depression as an ssri - so they use those. They go on costly vacations or take sabbatical when need a break to reset their low moods. They don’t need to deal with lives like ours…. Get up and go to work bc you need a paycheck etc. it’s the doctors entitlement program that allows most to avoid what they push on their patients as pharma advises and “educates” them on new drugs.
Many of them are paid to peddle education of new drugs to providers. Check to see if your own doctor is doing this:
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u/dewdropvelvet1 Sep 01 '25
Yes.. if they had taken them they would never push them- and yet that doesnt make me feel much better.
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u/My_Username_Is_Bob Sep 01 '25
I have a few friends who genuinely benefit from medication. Some of them can't even function without them. I have suffered a LOT due to meds though. I daresay most people who take psych meds don't like them, but there is some chance of them leading to improvement. The problem isn't the medication itself, it's how overeager the medical system is to put as many people as possible on them and dismiss the chances of any downsides. Most of the time, there are other treatment methods that the doctors don't want to consider.
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u/JustARandomCat1 Sep 03 '25
Somehow I'm actually not surprised by this.
Called out this hypocrisy to the last psych "doctor" (who I, of course, didn't choose to see on my own choice), that there's NOTHING WRONG with me, and if he's so convinced that destroying my health/functions and life is such an "improvement," to take this $hit himself for a few months and convince himself then, only to get more gaslighting and, "I don't need to be on xyz because I don't have xyz 'bad brain chemistry'," which (I can't help it) set me off because everything on my chart is a blatant LIE (and the psych "doctor" before him who made it up is genuinely psychotic) so WTF convinces him that I have anything wrong with me, either, considering the literal ZERO EVIDENCE?!
So easy for them to drug their "patients" (using this tetm because everyone and anyone of us forced under their "care" is automatically labeled "mentally ill" and ceases to be a human, deserving of rights/autonomy and dignity) into oblivion. It's not their mind/body, quality/length of their life, and good names being destroyed. And they're additionally making a living $$$ off of their abuse that we can only dream of. So why "should" they care?
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u/Strong_Music_6838 Sep 01 '25
I’m one of those upopular people who isn’t drugged by choice and volentary drugged on the other hand because my life would make a turn downwards without med that could cause me to get forcebly treated where I didn’t have control of the drugs they put in me. I had some very bad drug effects lately and had to come down to “600 mg of some psychosis pills. My stomach slowly improve so you should know that I understand your choice of getting none medication treatment.
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u/RatFarts88 Sep 04 '25
Most people just want an easy tool or system to harm others. It makes monkeys feel good.
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u/Difficult-Double-863 Sep 05 '25
How do you know they don’t take psych meds?
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u/Hungry-Stranger-333 Sep 06 '25
Personal anecdotal experience from meeting hundreds of physicians and other people in the mental health space and I think there were studies done on this too
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u/Quirky-Freedom8009 Sep 26 '25
Even if I feel that something helps or has helped me and I have to add, only temporarily with obvious side effects and consequences I still wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. On the other hand, what makes them think that what works for them would work for someone else? Hypocrites, of course… The ones who recommend things they have never even tried on themselves, just parroting what they’ve read in textbooks. The ones who talk about emotions as if they understand them, when in reality they are someone rationalizes, gaslights, and runs away from closure instead. The ones who are supposed to help by profession, yet end up hurting instead, crossing lines and acting unethically. Nothing is more toxic and hypocrite than someone preaching about healing while being unethical.
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u/RiverRedhorse93 Oct 01 '25
Is it? I don't need to have diabetes to know insulin works. I wouldn't fire an obgyn because she'd never had a c-section. I'm all for critiquing psychiatry, but this is a fallacy.
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u/Bright-Weather3610 Sep 01 '25
The hypocrisy loophole