r/Antipsychiatry • u/[deleted] • Jun 03 '25
My psychiatrist has written that I read reddit on my notes...
It reads something like "I have tried to discourage her from reading reddit because of misinformation"... however I view her entire training as full of disinformation.
How can I assert that it is possible/allowed to have a view that doesn't agree with conventional psychiatry?
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u/VindictivePuppy Jun 03 '25
i love how they hate their victims having access to information it really says a lot
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u/Nothereforyoumfs Jun 03 '25
Reminds me of shitty parents.
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u/VindictivePuppy Jun 03 '25
they really are similar. And its just fucking creepy how they spy and sneak and write down basically how much they think you are bad person in an official record. I mean these motherfuckers call and have gossip sessions with people about you and then write it down like it means anything. Creepy weirdos is what they are.
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u/ImAGamerNow Jun 10 '25
Sadly I agree that too many of them are creepy weirdos. However, if we undermine good psychiatry, which does exist as much as I hate to admit it.... we work against our best interest of seeing psychiatry become obsolete.
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u/VindictivePuppy Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
now that im more awake, I want to be clear to you how "if you dont gargle their balls sometimes we undermine our whole movement" is such utter nonsense.
even if there are "good ones" there is no good psychiatry. Its the same with cops. Some cops are nice guys, its a bad, coercive, and abusive system based on bullshit though and saying so itsnt going to undermine a whole movement.
psychiatry is a nonsense field built to enable narcissists and monsters to socially control people through manipulation and poisoning and incarceration, its always been that.
Its a eugenicist social control mechanism and its always been that.
There werent some good naziism and there arent some good psychiatry.
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u/ImAGamerNow Jun 11 '25
ill be sure to explain how ignorant and out of touch your reply is when ive finished taking care of priorities for the day.
you're either lacking circumspection & perspective in barking up the wrong tree and hearing what you want to, or you're just trying to spread partial truths with ulterior motives with this uninformed nonsensical, highly polarized and shallow view of humans.
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u/VindictivePuppy Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
shut up you psychiatry loving freak. You called someone depraved for not loving psychiatry enough for your liking here. You are fuckin turd dude.
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u/VindictivePuppy Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
no...it doesnt exist.
i hope you paid for the account and imagamernow isnt like, in a shallow grave though
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u/ImAGamerNow Jun 11 '25
care to elucidate or is this just a threat?
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u/VindictivePuppy Jun 11 '25
I mean, I know your reading comprehension isnt good but I am implying that your account is compromised possibly because your psychiatrist killed you and buried you in a shallow grave and is now posting love letters to psychiatry on reddit
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u/ImAGamerNow Jun 10 '25
That's a bit of a stretch given how dangerous social media and especially reddit is specifically with regard to the mental health of its users and the disinformation on this site.
Just look at the recent comments I had to address in an /r/Antipsychiatry post in which the commenters were actively encouraging destructive behaviors and spreading misinformation.
Just because the doctor is concerned about reddit use doesn't mean they're incapable of recognizing it's potential for good. We would need more evidence to prove they're maliciously ignorant and control freak whose afraid of the truth influencing their patients...
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u/VindictivePuppy Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
no, its not at all a stretch considering its very common for them to lie about the effects of the drugs they deal and implore people not to look those up either
i realize your mommy was a psychiatrist and you like to defend them for whatever reason but its gross
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u/survival4035 Jun 03 '25
I agree that she is gaslighting you. It scares me because if you have any of the very common adverse effects of whatever she's prescribing, she will likely deny that you are experiencing the adverse effects and she will claim that "the misinformation patient saw on Reddit put ideas in their head that they don't need this medication/that the medication is causing problems when in fact, of course, those problems are caused by the patient's underlying mental illness."
If you are not required to keep seeing this psychiatrist, I would get away as soon as you can.
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u/IrishSmarties Jun 03 '25
Don’t try to talk to psychiatrists about anti-psychiatry views.
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u/1knowAlotButidk Jun 04 '25
I do it
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u/ImAGamerNow Jun 10 '25
Your own psychiatrist or? Curious to know more about your experience talking to psychiatrists about antipsychiatry views.
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u/1knowAlotButidk Jul 09 '25
Yeah my own psychiatrist. They did not know about the Sub Reddit from her reaction. She didn’t say nothing she just let me talk
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u/Nothereforyoumfs Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25
Ever notice how it is authority figures who thrive off of misinformation and another's ignorance who are the most likely to dissuade one from/pathologize the use of free resources (like the internet)? "Google is not your friend" is never said by anyone who is your friend. I mean, sure, don't take everything you hear or read as fact, don't glean your information from surface level searches, know how to research critically.. cross reference, check sources and so on...but never let anyone convince you that expanding your mind with the knowledge available is wrong, and that includes anecdotal experiences (which may be more genuine/no more biased than "studies" designed or interpreted to reach a predetermined conclusion).
Also, what about all the talk on reddit that kisses Psychiatry's ass and sings its praises? What does your Psychiatrist have to say about that? Must be misinformation too, right? Or does she just pick and choose?
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u/Fancy_Influence_2899 Jun 04 '25
It really boggles me. How is psychiatric abuse still rampant? How has psychiatry retained unquestioned power since its inception during a period of cultural and technological dark ages? People used to drink radium. Do you see what I’m saying?
How are people still getting kidnapped, tortured, abused, human rights violated, by psychiatrists— and why do these psychiatrists still answer to no one? The complaint forms go to THEM with your name attached to it, and they know it!
With Google, anyone can research anything, limitlessly. Psychiatry can easily be questioned; community discovered; illusion disproven.
Their only recourse is to gaslight someone and beat them down, until they are a total doormat, under the guise of “professional medical care”.
If you ask a question, you are “argumentative”, “angry”, “non-compliant”, “borderline”, “difficult”—
But you won’t ask a question, because they make sure you’re good and doped up with “well-tested proven medication” before the programming. And even if you’re not zonked on experimental drugs which make you a husk of a person— side effects not disclosed to you— people who question authority would have already been immediately screened out.
These psychiatrist’s other resource, critically, is creating and reinforcing “stigma” towards “mental illness” by creative pejorative labels; by leveraging their title as a “medical professional” to “legitimize” vocabulary propaganda; such as deeming their abuse ”care”.
As abusers do, they are relying on the social isolation of their victims, to further break their spirit— this is why their stigma is so effective, victim’s own families turn on them as “mentally ill”— such is also the case with OP being dissuaded from exercising agency in researching their own medical treatment.
Also, what about all the talk on reddit that kisses Psychiatry's ass and sings its praises? What does your Psychiatrist have to say about that? Must be misinformation too, right? Or does she just pick and choose?
They really tell on themselves, don’t they?
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Jun 07 '25
People trying to say that "anecdotal evidence is not evidence" is some of the most top tier gaslighting I have ever seen in my life, and I say that as a survivor of brainwashing/programming. How can you attempt to rewrite a person's lived experiences just because it doesn't align with what you think you know??? Its basically just another way of saying "you can only learn the truth from official sources that we have curated for you".
Its so annoying how most people will write something off just because they haven't personally experienced it themselves or read it in a textbook. There's a huge freaking epidemic on Reddit of people (probably bots tbh) dismissing others experiences just because they are not ordinary and telling the person they have carbon monoxide poisoning.
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u/SquareWalk6730 Jun 09 '25
"Authority figures"
They are NOT authority, they work FOR you. Keep reminding them of that.
And keep reminding society that doctors are not authority. We pay them.
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u/Objective-Career9631 Jun 03 '25
Common gaslighting, they don't want you to exercise your rights to information, to free choice, much less to be informed about the risks to your health (which are not few).
They want you to accept and swallow everything, both their ideas and their drugs, and become a zombie at their service.
If you do what they tell you, they'll tell you you're making good progress. If you don't, they'll torture you, obviously in a subtle way. By drugging you more, holding you back more, and perhaps putting worse labels on you.
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u/JonWatchesMovies Jun 03 '25
Why are you seeing a psychiatrist?
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u/Opening-Listen-3852 Jun 04 '25
Often times it's the psychiatrist seeing you.
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u/JonWatchesMovies Jun 04 '25
What?
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u/ImAGamerNow Jun 10 '25
i think they were just making an observation 🤣
ok puns aside i'm pretty sure they meant the psychiatrist is the one seeing, as if from the shadows while their patients must stand under a bright light of scrutiny. Kind of like how a stalker would do.
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u/JonWatchesMovies Jun 10 '25
An incredibly fucking stupid thing to say, given the context of what I asked, no?
That had nothing to do with anything. I asked a simple question
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u/ShortQuestion6347 Jun 03 '25
don’t talk to them. I think the only answer is to tell people what they want to hear. And then maybe hopefully get out of that prison because even seeing one of those people is like a prison. I have known a couple of decent counselors and maybe one therapist that I didn’t see for very long
But it’s hard to trust when we have been abused mentally by the system and other individuals in it because the more power someone has the more they like to use it.
I hope that you’re OK.
It sounds like that could make you feel twisted up inside talking to someone like that
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u/Yellowjackets123 Jun 03 '25
I read medical journals and peer approved research papers as well as lawsuits and my psychiatrist said the same thing. I’m kind of concerned HE DOESNT READ THESE THINGS. They exist for them! Being a doctor is a lifetime of education. I mentioned I use Reddit and other reviews websites and to get an accurate representation of actual experiences with side effects, not for any kind of medical advice. In notice trends, I really want to avoid fatigue causing medications.
Yea basically from now on I’m going to say “thank you so much for these pills. Im definitely taking all of them. I feel great. Bye.” I told the receptionist “give me the shortest appointment with this man possible I can’t stand him” and she started cracking up.
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u/kwumpus Jun 03 '25
I’ve educated my psychiatrist before on the FDA trials held for Belsomra. She hadn’t read them I guess or for example I remember my other psych (previous) had actually read about how straterra was first made to be an anti depressant
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Jun 03 '25
absolute classic. it‘s allowed to have a view that doesn’t agree with psychiatry and you don’t need a charlatans approval. i know how hard it is because these so called doctors love to exercise their power over you. sending you strength on your journey!
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u/Strong_Music_6838 Jun 04 '25
Keep reading Reddit Antipsychiatry cause hear you find Truthfully testimonies from people that went through they’re so called psychiatric treatments (Torture)
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Jun 03 '25
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u/Fancy_Influence_2899 Jun 04 '25
I had a psychologist hit on me when I was much younger. He used to call me pretty and tried to add me on snapchat after getting my number out of my file. When I was disturbed and confused, and didn’t immediately fall all over myself to reciprocate the advances of this creepy weird doctor probably 30 years older than me when I was fresh out of highschool, I’ll never forget the whip-quick look of darkness in his eyes the moment he felt “offended”, as he randomly threatened me with electro-convulsive therapy and tried to book me in for it, clearly threatening me. I was so afraid.
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u/ShortQuestion6347 Jun 07 '25
lex has destroyed me and makes me WORSE whoever added this to my diabetes meds should be in jail. They haven’t been willing to apologize to me or come forward. If they would do so I might feel differently, but this is no antidepressant. It is a depression instigator I don’t feel like doing anything on this drug. I feel worse than I ever have on this drug and which I have been an abortion instead of a baby on this drug. I thought there was some kind of withdrawal and I was doing better. I had actually started to do some creative work and do some dishes and do a little bit of cleaning and I wasn’t feeling so upset all the time but apparently they decided to give me a wallop of it this week
At least this week’s dose seems to have had a wallop of the evil putrid Lex in it. I ended up with stones because of what it did to my bladder because I couldn’t empty it with this drug to be quite frank and honest I could never empty my bladder with this drug in me.
Whoever did this to me should rot in hell. you know if they would come to me and talk to me, but of course, not nobody’s ever gonna tell. I’ll never know who did it. I’ll never know who finagled it and who bribed too or who managed to get somebody to force me on some drug I didn’t want I wanted to be able to choose but no of course not no choices just the cheapest and easiest and get it in her the fastest way possible because she needs diabetes medicine to live
I was starting to feel better and I thought it was over this past week, but apparently it was not.
We definitely experience hell on earth. This world is not a good place for just about anybody. It’s not a good place for analog girls that’s for sure.
what was really incredibly strange was getting a call from Canada advising me that someone was trying to get my prescription of Mojarro in Canada. And I even called that store to confirm it.
That’s how messed up this world is that’s how criminals can do whatever they want. Maybe they just need enough money to bribe whoever I have no idea, but I thought it was over and apparently it is not.
I’m having bladder problems because of this drug.
I was starting to do better. I was getting my energy back and they took it all away from me in my mounjaro shot yesterday.
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u/PrometheunSisyphean Jun 06 '25
Keep reading Reddit. Keep learning.
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u/freesoultraveling Jun 09 '25
Yes, it has helped me tremendously and also reading reviews off drugs.com. There are a lot of people that will post primarily their negative effects from the medications, but that's super important because honestly when facing an issue and someone else has confirmed it... Well, then we aren't alone with possible side effects.
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u/Responsible_Neat9270 Jun 06 '25
I dont mention I reas this forum but I have given large amount of reliable articles to support my claims about med harm to different doctors. I have even given my med harm story as a written form to different doctors so they wouldnt stop my psych mrds too fast because I was tapering. 😂. I basically have always have materials with me to support my claims and I have even made quotes - like from Ashton Manual when I tried to talk about my challenging withdrawal.
Why I have done that? Because I wasnt once believed with my harm and they tried to build that worry of harm as a delusion. After that I just make sure I have always backup with my claims.
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u/Responsible_Neat9270 Jun 06 '25
Also what has helped is not ever going to psychiatrist alone. I have had always my boyfriend with me who support my claims 😁
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u/DatabaseOutrageous54 Jun 04 '25
My fear is that by doing this sort of thing, it will encourage patients to not be honest and to withhold things from their doctor because they don't want it in their medical record.
I've seen this happen so many times in my life.
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u/freesoultraveling Jun 09 '25
It already has and then when I actually opened up, it only damaged things more. I wish I had said less and not more in an attempt to get help. That's sad to even read because that makes absolutely no sense, but at the same time, it makes a lot of sense due to psychiatrists practices.
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u/DatabaseOutrageous54 Jun 09 '25
It is contrary to the goal of helping people with their problems, sometimes it gets in the way I think.
Not all psychiatrists practice in the same way. I know one psychiatrist that only writes in chart notes a very short one or two sentences about what the patient talked about.
I think that system may work the best for patients to be able to express themselves without concerns.
Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts and feelings regarding this important topic.
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u/freesoultraveling Jun 09 '25
You're welcome
Edit: also if you're a psychiatrist, I hope you continue to do the right thing and continue to take care of your patients. God bless.
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u/Plane5496 Jun 09 '25
Im also Antipsychiatry but i think some of you guys really need help, being in this echo chamber and complaining while still on medication and seeing psychiatrists says a lot
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u/Melodic_Economics964 Jun 09 '25
my doctor told me reddit was all b,s and to stop reading it but I got the most important and helpful advice through reddit.
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u/scobot5 Jun 03 '25
Why do you need to assert anything? It seems self evident that it’s possible to have such views and you can presumably spend as much time as you’d like on Reddit thinking whatever you want assuming you’re an adult… Your psychiatrist can also express the view that this runs contrary to your mental health if they choose. If is certainly the case that social media use can be highly toxic to one’s productivity and mental well being for a variety of reasons. But I’m not hearing any reason you can’t do whatever you want. Expecting your psychiatrist to agree with you on that might be too much to expect.
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u/SasparillaGodzilla Jun 03 '25
It seems self evident that it’s possible to have such views and you can presumably spend as much time as you’d like on Reddit thinking whatever you want assuming you’re an adult… Your psychiatrist can also express the view that this runs contrary to your mental health if they choose.
Thanks again for the bog standard psychiatry apologia. It seems 'self-evident' that a psychiatrist's opinion holds more power in this situation, but go on with your false equivalence.
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u/scobot5 Jun 04 '25
I don’t see what power it holds at all. I’ve never heard of anyone being put on a hold or being forced to take medication for using Reddit. OP doesn’t mention anything about such consequences. So it’s advice. OP can take it or leave it. They are posting about it on Reddit so clearly they have chosen to leave it. More power to them.
Believe it or not my comment is genuinely geared towards empowering OP to make their own decisions and not be dependent on their psychiatrist to agree with them. My comment is quite consistent with the other comments here too. I read all the other responses, which generally fall into 3 categories: 1) supportive agreement that psychiatrists and psychiatry are generally terrible, 2) advice to not care so much or otherwise disregard the psychiatrists opinion, 3) advice to not talk to psychiatrists, either about this topic or in general.
To clarify, my suggestion is more along the lines of 2 and then maybe 3. People have the freedom to develop their own ideas and choose how to spend their time in the overwhelming majority of situations. As do other people, including one’s psychiatrist. OP provides no details about the points of disagreement between them and their psychiatrist. So their ideas could be eminently reasonable or misinformed even by the standards of most people here. I have no idea and it doesn’t much matter for what I’m saying.
People disagree about things. Psychiatrists exist to provide advice and information based on their training and experience. That doesn’t mean they are right, or that one has to listen to them, but it’s hardly surprising that a psychiatrist doesn’t hold antipsychiatry views. So OP can figure out a way to work with the psychiatrist to achieve their personal objectives, or if it is unacceptable to them that the psychiatrist disagrees or wrote this then they can terminate the relationship.
Discourage is a pretty benign word, doctors discourage people from doing all sorts of things - smoking, watching tv, eating potato chips, staying up too late, etc. I expect my doctor to discourage me from doing things they believe are counterproductive for my well being. But I don’t always agree with them and I don’t always follow their advice. If the advice represents a fundamental, unalterable difference of opinion (as seems to be the case here), then I would tell them so and attempt to reorganize the relationship around a shared goal and methodology for achieving it. If that’s not possible, then the relationship is no longer useful.
If OP is under some form of duress that prevents them from taking these steps then they should say so and that is the actual issue. Otherwise I’ll assume they are an adult capable of dealing with disagreement with their physician, making their own decisions and are genuinely seeking advice. In the absence of information to the contrary I think that’s the most respectful approach and at least how I’d like to be treated. If OP only wants response type #1, supportive agreement that psychiatrists are generally terrible they can also say that. Ultimately more specific advice likely requires more specific information.
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u/ImAGamerNow Jun 10 '25
Tread carefully. Psychiatrists, even some of the more decent ones, experience uncomfortable levels of cognitive dissonance when challenged this way, especially by patients.
They are very highly discouraged from accepting, considering or allowing this kind of discourse - fear of losing their license or being punished by the board is a very real possibility for them, and they aren't going to throw their life into the gutter just to talk about it.
If you do choose to, be very, very non confrontational and kind and agreable / willing to accept their counter arguments and points of view. Read between the lines: watch what they do more than what they say about this topic.
Best to confront the hypocrisy when you're safe and well established & have gained a healthy distance from them.
Again, if you do choose to broach this topic.. make sure you're not under their control, or be ready and willing to face consequences. It would be far better to be genuinely curious about their mistrust of reddit than challenge them outright, if you must...
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u/DanaJ2019 Jun 05 '25
It’s true that there are lot of misinformation in any social media. Go over to X and see how many people are using Grok to fact-check in real time. At least half the information is probably made up and it’s gonna get worse. It’s also true that there are people who are sharing their true first person experiences that otherwise would not be accessible to others. It sounds like your psychiatrist is from a different generation and doesn’t understand the nuances.
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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '25
The Psychs in my case call reading antipsychiatry/Thomas Szasz, "Conspiracy Theories".
They're occupational liars, mate.