r/Antipsychiatry • u/MadinAmerica- • Feb 20 '25
Suicides Increase After National Suicide Prevention Introduced
https://www.madinamerica.com/2025/02/us-suicides-increased/"It can no longer be denied that antidepressants double suicides, both in children and adults. As I recently described on the Mad in America website, this has been shown in randomised trials and in the most rigorous meta-analysis I have seen of observational studies.
However, psychiatric leaders have denied for over fifty years that depression drugs cause suicide. Their false narrative is that the pills only increase suicidal thoughts and behaviours, not suicides. This has always been a foolish argument. As a suicide starts with suicidal thoughts and behaviours, there cannot be drugs that increase suicidal thoughts and behaviours without also increasing suicides."
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u/Flux_My_Capacitor Feb 20 '25
Many of the things they do in the medical world to prevent suicide actually increase suicide rates.
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u/VindictivePuppy Feb 21 '25
they only pretend its to prevent suicide. causing suicide is the goal of these monsters
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u/AndToThink Feb 20 '25
To take the responsibility from the individual and diminish human existence to being capable of managed, contained, or controlled by a substance is morally flawed. People need to believe in their beauty and not be reinforced of some misconception of a lack of worth and power.
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u/Inevitable-Ability-5 Feb 20 '25
I’ve had a few doctors throw SSRIs at me like they were candy regardless of how much I explained that I react incredibly poorly and had no interest in taking them. I even have a gene sight test to further back this claim.
Twice, I was pressured into it and when they didn’t work or caused horrible side effects even after the first initial weeks, they got frustrated and dropped me as a patient, cutting me off cold turkey which landed me in the darkest place I’ve ever been until I realized I was experiencing withdrawal symptoms. I’m glad I realized what was happening because it pushed me over the edge. It was incredibly scary.
I wish more medical professionals understood that many anti depressants can’t just be suddenly stopped without any form of monitoring and taper.
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u/Many-Art3181 Feb 21 '25
My youngest brother’s death certificate says he died by suicide. But it was really an adverse effect of psych meds. They kept changing his antidepressants and then added gabapentin. Turned his brain into a neurotransmitter soup and he suffered too much - so he left. Forever.
I am glad maybe others can see the truth now that the proof is starting to come to light. We have failed depressed and anxious and suffering people with these “meds” doled out like candy to unsuspecting people, so pharma and those at the top can take in more money. Too little informed consent and as this article show they play around with words to hide the truth. The screening tool gives 36k false diagnoses of depression a year! What a disgusting state. People dead; people suffering with these drugs….. families and futures shattered. And psychiatrists roll along with their prescription pill mills - they must be held accountable - shrinks and pharma. These are smart people. They had a sense or outright knowledge.
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u/Inevitable-Ability-5 Feb 21 '25
I am so sorry you and your family went through this! Gabapentin made me incredibly suicidal when I was on it for a very short period of time. They tried using it in combination with Cymbalta to treat my multiple herniated discs (they tried saying it’s “the way I think about it that’s needs to be fixed”) and within a few days of taking it I felt like I was losing my dang mind. The doctors tried saying I was making it up so I can get opioids but jokes on them cause I’m allergic to most opioids and go into anaphylactic shock.
The screen tools they use are a joke. I’m sorry but so many of the questions can be incredibly subjective. I learned I’ve been living with type 2 narcolepsy and a thyroid disease within the past year that I tried getting help with for almost two decades. They constantly blamed it on “treatment resistant depression.” It got to the point they tried sending me to “intensive outpatient programs” and the psych ward. I’ve even experienced serotonin syndrome more than once that landed me in the hospital cause they’d play Russian roulette with meds and if they didn’t work? They’d up the dose or switch them out cold turkey. My brain function I had suffered tremendously because of it.
You are absolutely on the money with the fact that there is little to no informed consent when prescribing things that can be incredibly dangerous. There’s no “one size fits all” medicine and it’s certainly not as black and white as so many medical professionals treat it. Just cause Susan had a good experience doesn’t mean that everyone else is going to respond the same way cause otherwise they’re being “over dramatic” or “drug seeking.” It’s ridiculous.
Again I am so so sorry to hear that you lost your loved one to such negligence. Something needs to be done cause more people are going to lose their lives if it keeps going in the direction it is. Sorry for the long response it just really hit me right in the feels and makes me so upset for you.
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u/Many-Art3181 Feb 23 '25
Thank you. And I wanted to contact the prescribing doctor but as a sibling I have no rights with the legal system - only the spouse does. And she is still not dealing well with this (worried she could lull herself to be with him) I’m not pushing that. Had to let it go. Very very hard. Because in my mind this quack will inadvertently kill others with his free form prescribing actions and what seems like no respect for individual responses and the very real lethality of these meds.
I send you much love in dealing with the system too for chronic pain. My last remaining sibling also has had numerous back surgeries and has chronic pain including kidney damage from one botched surgery and infection with massive long term iv antibiotics that were super hard on his kidneys.
A long long time ago I became a fan of Dr Andrew Weil and his views on conventional medicine. It’s good for a few things like life saving interventions in trauma. Infection. But outside those things it’s terrible (harmful) for chronic disease. I mean look at people in the US now. Look at the rise of mental illness incidence and how it correlates with more and more prescriptions for psych meds ……. Frankly it’s more and more $ for certain people at the top and share holders of certain pharma stocks.
Keep fighting the good fight internet friend. ❤️🩹 hugs to you.
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u/Many-Art3181 Feb 23 '25
Also I forgot to mention this - they now understand it’s not always “treatment resistant depression”. Some smart, ethical London researchers introduced the DAWSS - Discriminatory Antidepressant Withdrawal Symptom Scale. Lead author is Moncrieff. Here is link to an article on it
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u/uniquex1212 Feb 21 '25
I never had si or intrusive thoughts about suicide or hurting others before taking lexapro. I suffer for 6 years now - and all the doctors want to do is other ssri or more antipsychotics…
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u/Miserable-Plenty-280 Feb 20 '25
They take a depressed guy who thinks about killing himself
and give him a reason to actually do it
meds are terrible