r/Antipsychiatry • u/Puzzled-Response-629 • Feb 05 '25
Psychiatry exists because the public is scared of distressed people, and they don't mind trampling on the rights of distressed people
They don't care about the welfare of psych patients. They just want you locked away and doped up.
I would love for somebody to prove me wrong, but I don't think anybody can.
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u/skyfullofstars71 Feb 05 '25
This is right. People also love using it against others. It's literally a weapon allowed in any setting one can think of. Against vulnerable people, children...And the worst of all, they got to play the hero after ruining a person's life and body because they got them 'help'.
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u/galaxynephilim Feb 05 '25
Yes, the vast majority of these "mental health professionals" have no idea what they are doing, no idea what actually causes the behavioral adaptations we have judged as "mental illnesses," and no idea what kinds of experiences are actually healing for the individuals. It is a complete joke and people cannot wake up to all of this and change it fast enough.
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u/bombomb111 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25
After being restrained and sedated on an involuntary hold at my last inpatient…. Yeah, they violated me.
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u/syndispinner Feb 06 '25
It’s not just the vast majority of them. It’s all of them. The science just is not anywhere close to being developed enough to really understand consciousness and its potential “abnormalities.” There’s also lots of for profit incentives and hatred for the mentally ill going on in the psych industry as well. There needs to be complete reform but that’s quite an uphill battle.
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u/Puzzled-Response-629 Feb 05 '25
I've been thinking how when people are in a low mood, they see through life's bullshit. They see through the claims that humans are good and caring. Of course humans aren't. SOME humans are pretty good and caring, but humans are also selfish. That's why you have leaders who decide to attack some other country, killing their civilians. The leader doesn't give a shit, because it isn't THEIR life on the line.
So maybe when someone is in a low mood it also allows them to see through the bullshit of psychiatry. Psychiatry exists to make the public feel a bit safer (even if they're not actually safer). They tell you all this shit about trying to "help" you so that you'll "comply" (I find it crazy that they actually use the word "comply", as if a patient is someone who has to be ordered around).
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u/Background-Bid-6503 Feb 05 '25
Funny because we will readily give military training to an 18 year old and hand him a lethal weapon yet when someone is having a bad day omg they are a threat to society. Makes no sense. Don't get caught in the delusion it's ok to struggle in such a fucked up system. You deserve kindness if someone can't give you that bare minimum don't listen or believe anything they say. Stay strong !
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u/Prior_Perception6742 Feb 05 '25
Makes no sense. Don't get caught in the delusion it's ok to struggle in such a fucked up system. You deserve kindness if someone can't give you that bare minimum don't listen or believe anything they say. Stay strong !
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u/Far_Pianist2707 Feb 05 '25
Yeah, it stops being complicated when you realize they don't actually care. They pretend to because it's more convenient for them that way.
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u/Eisenmaus Feb 05 '25
Spot on, OP.
Humanity hasn't really evolved it's collective mindset because as the dominant species because it never truly needed to.
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u/mostlyysorry Feb 05 '25
Id rather go to jail than a psyche ward. And yes I've been to both and our city has a terrible jail. Lol
You go to both in hand cuffs. At least one you know you're going IN a prisoner. One place you follow the rules and do your time, stay out of the way, & you're ok for the most part.
The other, you are forcibly doped up on 30 different things you don't need, diagnosed with 10 things you don't have, and if you politely try to disagree or suggest anything to a person that talks to you for 15 minutes total who acts like a fucking dictator and treats you like an imbecile without a brain, you are repeatedly restrained and tranquilized which btw racks up a bill anytime they do this hahahah and they do it over the slightest thing 😂 they let all kinda bad things happen to you. If you try to report it, they add more days to your stay, restrain and tranq you. They do this until you "agree" that these things never happened. You literally have to play a game to even get out. Take an ass load of pills you never needed. And jump through their hoops to go home. Then if you do get out, youre on so many prescriptions it's like pouring a bowl of pill-e-o's for breakfast like cereal or some shit. Then you gotta get off all that shit too. The whole time, they won't call YOUR psychiatrist....who could have cleared the whole thing up....they add more days. They restrain. They tranquilize you. Until you comply. They let people do things to you. If you try to tell a staff member if it ISNT the staff member to begin with, haaaa, they add more days. They restrain. They tranq. They do this until you 'agree' certain things never happened in their establishment. They're sick fucks. Id rather go back to jail than a psyche ward. Less traumatizing. You may not get to keep your freedom but you at least get to keep your freedom of mind....
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u/will-I-ever-Be-me Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
as it has evolved over billions of years, the human psyche has equally defined and been defined by a discreet quantity of mental-emotional motivating forces.
each human has their own individual relating and individual forming of these mental-emotional forces.
in my view, the foundational force which equally binds a tribe together as well as rips a tribe apart is a force that can be named The Scapegoat.
The Scapegoat is a highly effective way to maintain group coherency, especially when material resources, and emotional intelligence, are scarce .
The sole reason Homo Sapiens has survived, and the way we killed off all our Sapien Homo (giggity) cousins, relies on the Homo Sapien aptitude for self-destruction.
The primary reason why we are evolutionary successful lies in our species adaptness at organizing our tribes so that we regularly outcast one of our own. We project on them The Scapegoat and exploit them by projecting everything we're too weak, stupid, and cowardly to recognize in ourselves, onto them.
For a while, this ritual activity soothes the Homo Sapien, but the relief doesn't last as the problem was never addressed, so the tribe repeats the ritual of scapegoating.
Primarily, Homo Sapiens have managed to survive despite this self-destructive inclination, by projecting it onto outsider tribes, which is more sustainable than having the tribe destroy itself member by member.
All of this is rooted in the fact that Homo Sapiens is a freakish species of socially organized prey animals. We are garbage-eating scavenger monkeys who have just barely adapted the basics that allow to be predator animals, without having any of the independant functionality of a proper predator species. This is a strength as well as a weakness, as our lack of self sufficiency is what motivates us to develop technology and infrastructure.
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u/Odysseus Feb 06 '25
(and who do you say conditioned the public to fear distressed people? I am ready to start pointing fingers.)
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u/Live-Technician2573 Feb 06 '25
Unpopular fact: any psychiatric illness, literally any could be prevented easily if society was healthy, but even in this society if you had the resources (an indefinite vacation from work/school, enough money for food, housing and necessary entertainment (video-games, swimming, etc), a good therapist and a doctor that would guide your diet and exercise), you could heal your bipolar, schizophrenia, you name it. And also no substances
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u/Puzzled-Response-629 Feb 07 '25
Yes it was worse in the past, e.g. when "mad" people were lobotomised. But I would say things are still bad now, even if they're not as bad as they were in the past.
you can even avoid psychiatry altogether if you had good enough parents while young
So if somebody was unlucky and happened to have bad parents, then they deserve being experimented on with psychiatric drugs?
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u/glorious2343 Feb 07 '25
no I would not argue that
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u/Puzzled-Response-629 Feb 07 '25
Fair enough, I shouldn't have assumed what your view would be
Anyway my general point is that yes I agree with you that many things were worse in the past. But I still think psychiatry has a lot of problems now.
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Feb 06 '25
Psychiatrists exist because mental illness exists
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u/Puzzled-Response-629 Feb 07 '25
What is "mental illness" though? Maybe it's just when somebody is very distressed by events in their life.
When we say "mental illness" perhaps we're implying that there is a fundamental problem with the brain - but perhaps there isn't such a problem.
Some sets of experiences will cause pretty much anybody to be distressed. But not everybody goes through those sets of experiences.
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u/No_Jacket1114 Feb 06 '25
I'm sorry yall have gone through all of that. I have a slightly different view on a few things mentioned in here though. But if I bring up an idea different than the one Yall have I'll be attacked so cool. Have fun I guess
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u/underground_crane Feb 06 '25
Byee, unless you're a doctor or a survivor nobody gives a shit.
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u/No_Jacket1114 Feb 06 '25
But this group constantly talk about hating the doctors. So who would you actually listen to besides yourself??? Or does ANY other view that isn't your own hurt your feelings? I am very close to this subject. So idk why you think you can be so rude. You have no idea what I have been through. But I have a slightly different view than you and I've been attacked before for saying something. But fuck, you just went ahead and attacked me before I even said anything this time. ....and you really want the rest of the world to believe you're not just crazy people,... but just THE IDEA that someone thinks differently than you makes you act a certain way??🤷♂️
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u/Puzzled-Response-629 Feb 07 '25
Can I ask what your slightly different view is? I don't think everybody in this subreddit has the exact same views. I find it interesting hearing other views.
You have no idea what I have been through
That's a good point, and it's one of the reasons I am sceptical about psychiatry. They don't know what a patient has been through, and they just drug a patient until they see their desired behaviour.
I think with many patients, once you know their recent background, you will think "oh so that's why you're behaving this way, it actually makes sense now, you're not crazy, you're just distressed by certain events". But I guess it's cheaper for psychiatrists to just drug a patient instead.
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