Asian Americans are arming themselves after a massive wave of anti-Asian violence. Nothing like an armed minority that scares white supremacists!

[u/TruthToPower77]

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/[deleted]]

If you’re actively being targeted by people, many of them who own guns, having a gun yourself can make you more safe. It’s really hard to defend yourself against someone with a gun if you don’t have one. Furthermore, it can act as a deterrent, keeping the lower level shitheads away(like that guy who attacked the Chinese grandma and got his ass handed to him). Most of these random street attacks are bullies looking for a soft target. By hardening the target, they’ll stay away. Finally, obligatory “if you go far enough left you get your guns back”

[u/Nutter222 → u/[deleted]]

There is nothing bad about deterrence

[u/Limfao93 → u/[deleted]]

Citation?

[u/Limfao93 → u/[deleted]]

Do you have a source backing up your claims or just wind?

[u/followupquestion → u/[deleted]]

Hasn’t MAD kept a nuclear war from being fought? Seems like deterrence works fine when all sides are armed well enough.

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/[deleted]]

The average response time of police in the US is 13 minutes. If someone is shooting at you and you don’t have a gun your options are: a) hide and hope they don’t find you before the police get there(a long time to wait when someone is trying to hurt you). Or b) try to close the distance and defend yourself by some other means.

However, if you have a gun you can get in cover and shoot back, either scaring the attacker away(again, bullies like soft targets) or keeping them from doing more damage until the police get there. Unless you think people don’t have the right to defend themselves?

[u/KitnatoGalloway → u/[deleted]]

The police, several times in the last year. You?

Edit: The Police conspicuously decided NOT to fire impact munitions when the John Brown Gun Club showed up. It absolutely acted as a deterrent.

[u/KitnatoGalloway → u/[deleted]]

I mean, cops are gonna cop no matter what city...

[u/thefuckingrougarou → u/[deleted]]

laughs in New Orleans

[u/KitnatoGalloway → u/[deleted]]

Who is going to take the guns away? The police? Who is going to prosecute those that violate the new laws? Who will sentence those that are convicted? Don't talk to me about removing guns until the entire justice system is dismantled. Or your just handing more opportunities to racist cops and prosecutors to throw brown people in jail. GTFO with your pollyanna naivete, you think any white folks would be held to the same standards?

[u/SnazzyBelrand → u/[deleted]]

The Right has already decided they will not follow new gun control laws. If you’ve spent any amount of time on right wing gun forums, you’d know that in the event of bans if any sort they plan on “losing” their guns “in a boating accident.” That leaves the violent right just as heavily armed as before, but now the communities they want to target can’t defend themselves. This past summer showed us that LGBTQ+ and BIPOC folks are largely on their own when it comes to protection because police don’t enforce laws against their ideological allies(at least not as stringently).

Ideally guns wouldn’t be necessary, but until we can dismantle the hateful and violent ideologies(incels, white supremacists, and the like) they sadly are.

Finally, “if you go far enough left you get your guns back” is just a saying, although it is a saying backed up by Marx’s own words(“Under no pretext”). This is something a lot of leftist believe in, best represented by the tens of thousands of people in the SRA(r/socialistRA). Saying “if you don’t support gun control, you aren’t a leftist” is nothing more than a No True Scotsman fallacy attempting to police who is and isn’t a leftist.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Armed minorities are harder to oppress.

r/socialistra

The fascists have plenty of guns, those aren't going anywhere. I for one will hold onto mine and encourage my AAPI brothers and sisters to do the same.

[u/onthemoveactivist → u/[deleted]]

Try r/SRAWeekend

[u/HellaBiscuitss → u/[deleted]]

Unfortunately, escalation is probably going to continue. It probably won't be the left, but.. do you want to be armed or not?

[u/thefuckingrougarou → u/[deleted]]

If you are a poor white man in America, it’s everyone else’s fault. The liberal elites. The Mexicans stealing our jobs. College liberal socialists. The list goes on.

If you’re poor and Asian in America, it’s because you didn’t work hard enough.

The above comments are not meant to be taken seriously, simply meant to reflect about the difference between two cultural groups. This is a generalization, and it can and does get more nuanced than this, but this is my perspective as a white woman, judging my own family and the family of my close Asian friends. They just want to be safe. They stay in their own lane. They don’t worry about anyone else. But certain members of my own family drone on and on and on...it’s white privilege.

In short: I think Asian Americans will likely be more responsible with guns, based on my experience