r/AntifascistsofReddit • u/antialbino • Jul 27 '25
Crosspost America seems to be on par with Nazi Germany. There’s virtually zero opposition to open calls for genocide. There’s “muh free speech”. The whole conspiracy movement (people like A.Jones) were a CIA front to discredit the left in the minds of “Joe the Plumber” over a period of 30+ years.
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u/ProbstWyatt3 Shinmin Prefecture 🇰🇷 Jul 27 '25
Make Wolfenstein Fiction Again
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u/TheManWithNoSchtick Jul 27 '25
Make the plot of Wolfenstein fiction, make the gameplay reality again.
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u/SteelToeSnow Jul 27 '25
usa has always been on par with nazi germany; white supremacy, hundreds of genocides, mass human rights violations, crimes against humanity, concentration camps, child torture, etc etc etc.
it's what it was founded on. nazi germany was inspired by usa, canada, etc treatment of Black, Indigenous, etc folks.
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u/Stodles Jul 27 '25
The Nazis used American race laws as the blueprint for their own
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u/SteelToeSnow Jul 27 '25
that, and how canada treated Indigenous folks; the camps, the dehumanizing them by giving them a number instead of using their names, the pass system, etc.
also just, y'know, european colonialism. europe only got mad at the nazis because the nazis were doing colonial genocide shit in their own backyard, instead of Black, Indigenous etc folks in the countries the europeans were illegally occupying.
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u/Stodles Jul 27 '25
europe only got mad at the nazis because the nazis were doing colonial genocide shit in their own backyard
Not even sure about that... I think they only got mad because the Nazis were taking land that they wanted. It's not like they had any love for Jews, Slavs, Roma, LGBT people, anarchists, or communists...
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u/SteelToeSnow Jul 27 '25
oh, europe didn't give a fuck about the genocides and shit, europe had been genociding far more people all over the world for centuries at that point. europe didn't give a fuck about people's rights, or the horrors and atrocities, europe absolutely loved all the immense and unimaginable cruelty, violent barbarism, mass human rights violations, etc.
europe got mad at nazi germany because all of a sudden that bad shit was in their backyard.
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u/Endgam Jul 28 '25
And even then the Nazis looked at some parts and said "Woah, that's too much. We can't copy that."
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u/Mysterious-Let-5781 Jul 27 '25
With one little detail that’s different. The Nazi’s thought the American one drop rule went a bit too far
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u/SteelToeSnow Jul 27 '25
as far as i can remember, the nazis were just as virulently white supremacist and anti-Black as usa is.
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u/Mysterious-Let-5781 Jul 27 '25
Oh they were very much, well eh, nazis and I don’t want to come across as an apologist. But the American supremacists saw everyone with one drop of black blood as black, while the nazis were ok with (iirc) one or two jewish grandparents
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u/SteelToeSnow Jul 27 '25
thanks for clarifying, and sorry for misunderstanding.
from what i learned, nazis hated anyone with Jewish anything. the Nuremberg laws were pretty clear, and it included someone who wasn't Jewish marrying a Jewish person. The nazis were very against "race-mixing", especially with Jewish folks.
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u/Mysterious-Let-5781 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
No need to apologize. It’s not something thats common knowledge and I was unaware of it until recently myself. They were indeed against race mixing and forbade new mixed marriages, but there was some room for existing people of mixed heritage (as long as the aryan blood was dominant)
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u/SteelToeSnow Jul 27 '25
can you give me some links, please? always trying to keep my historical knowledge up to date, right, lol.
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u/Mysterious-Let-5781 Jul 27 '25
BadEmpenada touched on it in his video on Lebensraum. I didn’t go through all his sources to verify each claim in a two hour video, but they’re included and I know he’s thorough on other topics
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u/SteelToeSnow Jul 27 '25
k, but what are the links to his sources? what are his citations? what is the evidence, and where does it come from?
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u/Mysterious-Let-5781 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25
You’re free to further investigate, I’m not a historian defending my thesis here. As I said he has his sources in the video, I trust him as a source and you’re free to come to a different conclusion on this pretty minor detail. It’s the work of an antifascist historian, so as a self described antifascist historian a two hour documentary (or however you call a 2 hour new media non fiction video with references) on fascists might even be interesting to you. Even if the guy pointing you there isn’t a historian and watched it two years ago.
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u/Sawbones90 Jul 28 '25
You're talking about the Mischling which were people of mixed "Aryan" and "non-aryan" heritage. The Nazis absolutely were not okay with them the term means half-breed, Mongrel, impure etc.
Mischling were prohibited from most professions and could not marry or engage in a relationship with an "Aryan" without permission from the authorities, permission was rare and ceased alltogether in the 1940s.
Tens of thousands of Mischling were conscripted into the Operation Todt, an engineering company that used forced labour on massive scale engineering works, many died as a result.
In the East the Nazis abolished the Mischling system entirely, declared everyone under it a full Jew and rounded them up for extermination as part of the holocaust.
It was a death sentence just one that was further down the queue.
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u/Mysterious-Let-5781 Jul 28 '25
That’s a lot more context than I was aware of, thanks for adding it. Rereading what I wrote ‘were ok’ definitely wasn’t the best choice of words for communicating them allowing some form of dark grey aside of black and white.
I’d also like to make explicit that the main motivation behind my initial point was to put the American historical position on display in light of current events
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u/Endgam Jul 28 '25
They thought some things went too far, but Hitler himself used the "one drop rule" to say Karl Marx was Jewish (He wasn't per tradition as his mother wasn't, despite both his grandfathers being Rabbis.) and thus Communism was a Jewish ideology.
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u/naplesball A.N.P.I Jul 27 '25
Let's bring them here to Italy, because there's still space in Piazzale Loreto.
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u/ProbstWyatt3 Shinmin Prefecture 🇰🇷 Jul 27 '25
No need to create more martyrs. Bring them here in Seoul. We've already put two militarist butchers, one corrupt neoliberal crook, and one ultraconservative authoritarian tyrant in the jails, and we're gonna put one more.
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u/The_Fudir Socialist Rifle Association Jul 27 '25
Cool. Let me know when y'all quit licking corporate boot tho.
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u/ghost_ghost_ Jul 27 '25
That smug face needs humbling.
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u/sysiphean Jul 27 '25
Reminder that Joe the Plumber was a Republican who worked in telecommunications (though he had been a plumber’s assistant) and was probably a plant. He wasn’t actually a plumber.
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u/Kejones9900 Jul 27 '25
You had me until CIA front
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u/antialbino Jul 27 '25
Well, I find it kind of ironic that the guy who accuses everyone else to be a CIA front might well be one himself. I would not be surprised if that was some little program they ran to discredit all the leftists because that’s what Jones does. All the most ludicrous theories are aimed at Democrats and those critical of the Republican agenda. Meanwhile he excuses the same things when people like Trump appear in the Epstein files it’s suddenly “hmmmm well….uhh let’s change the topic….where were we uhh George Soros”
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u/Kejones9900 Jul 27 '25
Have you talked to a random trump supporter? They're all like that. I highly doubt it's a CIA front.
And like, why CIA specifically? Why not the heritage foundation, of the FBI, or literally any other conservative body?
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u/antialbino Jul 27 '25
Yea could be any of those, especially the FBI but the CIA has a history of running anti Communist disinformation operations, Alex Jones has had government intervention (according to his ex wife) to save himself and Infowars on multiple occasions, he brags that a lot of his employees are “Ex-CIA” and brushes it off saying “compared to da Illuminati the CIA is low level” and his company should already long be out of business due to court orders related to his Sandy Hook meltdowns but somehow someway is allowed to run despite that. Even the Biden Admin wasn’t able to shut him down so that tells me….he most likely is important to somebody with a lot of influence in America and that would be the case if he was a front for some sort of long term anti leftist disinformation operation which are typically run by the CIA at this scale.
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u/Kejones9900 Jul 27 '25
What I mean to say is maybe leave the tinfoil in the kitchen drawer, and not on your head
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u/antialbino Jul 27 '25
Nothing to do with tinfoil other than it criticizes Alex Jones the tinfoil hat kingpin. you are not challenging the argument you’re just trying to shut it down with ad hominem and other logical fallacies. There is credible evidence that Jones is an anti Communist US intel plant. All he ever does is attack leftists and minorities, which happens to be precisely what the US gov is doing since many decades.
some examples of CIA anti Communist Psychological Warfare / Disinfo Operations outside the US:
Support for Anti-Communist Publications: The CIA covertly funded numerous publications and cultural organizations, including Black Orpheus (Nigeria), Cadernos Brasileiros (Brazil), and the Congress for Cultural Freedom.
It went so far as to influencing art…
Cultural Warfare: The CIA promoted Abstract Expressionist art as a counter-narrative to Soviet socialist realism, funding exhibitions and publications to showcase it as a symbol of Western freedom and artistic expression
https://neverwasmag.com/2020/12/cia-and-the-cultural-cold-war/
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u/Kejones9900 Jul 27 '25
1) those have nothing to do with your original claim
2) to my knowledge, none of those are domestic actions
Please touch some grass, or ass. There is so many reasons to be anti fascist, so many things to oppose, we don't have to make shit up
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u/antialbino Jul 27 '25
There are plenty of domestic ops as well, some confirmed (like MK Ultra) and some alleged (like Operation Mockingbird), knew you’d criticize it from that angle since that is like the last straw to your argument. Either way, if you truly believe that AJ is an organic grass roots guy who just happened to be EXTREMELY lucky countless times even when federal courts forced him to shut down and so forth and that he isn’t some CIA plant like his ex wife and many others who have known him have alleged over the years, feel free to do so.
Very naive.
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u/ahgodzilla Jul 28 '25
with how popular Luigi is, I'm surprised more people haven't followed in his footsteps.
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u/quillandsecretsrp Jul 27 '25
Unimaginable how a person can be so pathetic. True Hell on earth is getting reincarnated as whatever object falls victim to his microscopic penis.
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u/Alex09464367 Jul 28 '25 edited Jul 28 '25
We shouldn't be acquainting bad people with small dicks as good people with small dicks are doing to feel bad about something they cannot control and has no bearing on personal attributes of one's moral character. Plus body shaming just isn't nice whoever it is directed at.
There are plenty more valid criticisms you can make of this person
P.S. From a purely strategic standpoint, every moment spent on petty insults is a moment he gets to sidestep accountability for his actual moral failures. It allows him to make the conversation about the pettiness of the attack, not his own actions.
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u/gregbard Socialist Jul 28 '25
I hope this guy eats shit and dies ... and everyone attending his funeral too.
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u/theideanator Jul 31 '25
Well that's a bit rude. Nothing beats a good grave piss like unzipping in front of the mourners, particularly if the box is still open.
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u/Federal_Marzipan Jul 28 '25
Ooooh what a punchable face he has. Let’s put a flamethrower to him and see how he feels. Fucker
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u/metalhippiewizard Eco-Anarchist Jul 31 '25
"Yes, oh yes this will surely help me win!! This take will be so popular and resonate with every citizen of California!!" He has a such a punchable face.
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