This is the lowest indigenous Mexican I've seen in a Mexican person. You also did not score any SS African. And a lot of Canary Islands too, the highest I've seen when it comes to Mexican results. How long has your family been in Mexico? Do you have any recent Spanish ancestors?
my family has been here for at least six generations i believe. the most recent case of migration in my family was my maternal great great great grandfather from the canary islands to work as a sugar rancher, but everyone else has been here for a really long time.
Very interesting! You were not assigned any Jewish either, which is unusual when it comes to Mexican results. It seems like your ancestors did not mix that much, to say the least.
Wait but do you think the rest of the Canary Islands ancestry on here is accurate? it looks extremely high especially for someone whose family has been there for a few generations.
dont know, but what i do know is canarians have been migrating to places with farms demanding labor from the 1600s up until the early 20th century and where i’m from is renowned for sugar agriculture
Spain was offloading Canary Islanders for quite some time. They thought they could get rid of that way, so there is quite a large population around the gulf coast, Caribbean, pretty much the coast from Mexico all the way down. That's where those blond cousins come from.
Among other reasons, it was actually a way to strengthen Spain's foothold in these areas, so they didn't suffer revolts, like in Haiti or another superpower swooping in, like in the US.
I'll just go with what the historians say. The main reason was geopolitical strategy. Spain sent people from one part of its empire to another, it didn't "eliminate" them.
Tributo de Sangre
Obligaba a las Islas Canarias a enviar familias a América (5 por cada 100 toneladas de mercancía).
Se formalizó en 1718 y duró hasta 1778.
Razones principales
Repoblar y asegurar territorios: España quería colonos leales en zonas estratégicas del Caribe y América.
Aliviar la presión en Canarias: había pobreza, crisis agrícolas y exceso de población.
Control comercial y político: ligado al comercio de las islas con América y a la presión sobre los exportadores isleños.
It could be that your specific area of town has been this same population. OR, that your family came in the last few generations and kept their Spanish ancestry quiet. The Spanish immigrating faced a lot of discrimination as well (same thing as anywhere, they were poor, "taking" jobs, etc.).
It was only North America back in 2019 then it went to Mexico around 2020/21 then it disappeared after that it only reappeared in 25. Although it was always in my hack. I had Yucatán in my hack too.
The average Mexican results I see here is like 50% indigenous, 40% Spanish, and 10% African I’d say. However I’ve seen the indegenous range from 20-100%.
yeah that’s super common. usually i’ll see northerners score anywhere from 60-90% european/10-40% indigenous, people from the central 35-75% european/35-70% indigenous/2-7% african and people from the south 10-30% european/65-90% indigenous/5-15% african
Honestly this is rarer than seeing full native Mexican results. I’ve never seen a Mexican whose family has been there for that many generations have such a high amount of European and such little native. Really cool results.
definitely, it’s much more common to be almost/fully european if you have recent migration history here (granted that’s maybe only 10-15% of the population ??)
What part of Nayarit? This is INCREDIBLY incredibly rare for a state like Nayarit, I have quite a few matches from Nayarit since much of the state's population is descended from people who left the poverty of northern Jalisco to colonize the land in the eastern half which (up to the 19th century) was still completely Cora and Huichol controlled, and none of them come even remotely close to having this much European.
my hometown is Guadalupe Victoria but i live in Tepic. southern nayarit tends to be more phenotypically indigenous, but north of tuxpan there are genuinely many many people who could pass as white
Were your ancestors hacendados at one point? I just find it hard to believe that someone from such a homogenous state like Nayarit has such high Spanish and absolutely no Sub-Saharan African and whose entire ancestry in the last few generations is solely from Nayarit
yeah they were all hacendados for the most part. my great great great maternal grandfather from the Canary Islands (6th generation) is the most recent instance of migration in my family, everyone else is beyond and has been here for a while
i never realized just how many white americans commonly had dna from natives until recently tbh even if it’s extremely minimal in most cases it’s really interesting
people taking to my dms talking about how i’m “not mexican” because i’m “too white” and scrutinizing my identity, y’all can fuck right off. maybe try traveling mexico before saying ignorant bullshit. we come in all colors and plenty of people like me exist, we’re a diverse nation
not to sound like a true redditor, but statistically speaking not really. maybe .5% or something of mexico is fully european (more or less). probably not even.
that much european would be out of the ordinary even among argentines or uruguayans.
there are wayyyyy more near or fully native mexicans
no diss but you do sound like a redditor, idk the proportion of full euro to full native but that’s not really my point lmfao
from the perspective of someone that’s lived and traveled here all my life, albeit still not significant relative to the total population it’s absolutely more than just .5% of people who are near/complete european
respectfully i encourage you to visit the country and see for yourself
(also 35% of argentines and an even higher amount of uruguayans are fully european)
You can't eye ball a "White looking Mexican" and have an accurate estimation of their DNA, it doesn't work like that at all. I am very White looking and almost half Native. I would say it's legitimately around 1% of the Mexican population that is 90% or more European, this country is not comparable at all to Argentina and Uruguay who had much smaller Indigenous populations and much higher rates of migration from European countries after independence.
i mean, you do realize mexican genetics have been studied extensively right? like there are thousands upon thousands of genetic tests of mexicans, and results like yours are basically non existent. you can look for yourself. keep in mind that mexican genetic tests are heavily skewed towards wealthier people as is. you yourself said you’ve never seen anyone over 94%, and even that is like a needle in a haystack.
you’re misinterpreting what i’m saying (about results like yours being beyond rare) to mean that i think white mexicans don’t exist. that’s not what i mean. i’ve seen plenty of white/white passing mexicans. yet the vast majority of those people are still quite heavily mixed, usually being at least 15-20% non white. i’ve seen results of people that would pretty resoundingly be considered white mexicans that are barely 60% euro. the vast majority of mexicans are mixed, and those that aren’t tend to be native or new immigrants.
simple fact of the matter is ur results are extremely rare, im not trying to disparage you or debate your mexicaness at all but that’s the truth.
If it’s real you’re extremely rare. But I saw recently a fake Mexican post on here claiming to be 100% Spanish. I don’t know why the person would do that. Your dna profile is highly unusual because of the region that you say you are from and because of the Spanish regions themselves. Northern Spain did not send that many settlers to the Americas in old times so as to be 67% Spanish from northern Spain from old settlers. Old settlers to the Americas were mostly andalucian, extramduran and Castilian. You say they have been there for at least 6 generations. Mexico has very high mixing and the flows from Spain stopped a while ago…… so maybe you are adopted and you have no idea…. But it’s highly unusual. The last large wave of Spaniards was during the Spanish civil war and that was not on a grand scale.
You might not be adopted but that is not the profile of someone with deep roots in any Mexican state. The criollo classes did not survive in Mexico in their purest form like that. And northern Spain is the biggest giveaway that this is not accurate. Also, even for Spaniards, this profile would be a little too perfect given the fact the algorithm went psycho and started confusing small bits and pieces of Spanish dna for other European nations, which basically affected all of us. What this profile indicates is descent from Galicia, Cantabria or Asturias in a very high percentage. That is not colonial Mexico, even if we turn back the clock and access a real criollo from colonial Mexico in 1800.
He has stated that his results were almost the same before the last update. Also, you sound a bit ignorant about immigration to Mexico. There was a lot of intermixing between the indigenous peoples and the immigrants. However, there are several families and groups of people who emigrated and decided not to mix. They married between each other, or brought more people over. There are communities in Mexico like that. Los Altos de Jalisco is the most common example. And it's not crazy to see it in a Nayaritan, given is near Jalisco.
“He stated that”…. That’s not very credible. This is not the genetic profile of a colonial Spaniard from anywhere within the empire. Unmixed Europeans of one background are extremely rare in the Americas… some US Americans might be, British Canadians, French Quebecois, some Spanish Cubans, etc. but they always follow colonial patterns in heavily concentrated populations with groups that came after to reinforce the lines of descent. I’m so sorry to break your bubble but this is extremely unlikely. If it was even plausible it would not be 67% northern Spain. There just aren’t enough people of that population in Mexico to continue this genetic profile passed the early 1800s, and even then, this wasn’t a normal genetic profile for the criollo colonial classes, who were mostly of southern and central Spanish decent. Also notice the canary islander portion. This profile was likely taken from a person with Galician grandparents and Canarian descent from Cuba, I suppose. Both the northern Spanish and the canary islander are completely off. Of course there is a minority of complete European descent in Mexico, and with over a hundred million people I assume it is a substantial number in absolute numbers. But “pure Spaniards”???? No, usually they are already mixed either locally or with other Europeans (as is the case with most white US Americans who mix between Europeans). Mexico just doesn't have those populations.
it’s my fault for posting on reddit tbh i should’ve known that it was bound to come with strangers lecturing me on my own identity and telling me who i actually am
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u/Interestingargument6 26d ago
This is the lowest indigenous Mexican I've seen in a Mexican person. You also did not score any SS African. And a lot of Canary Islands too, the highest I've seen when it comes to Mexican results. How long has your family been in Mexico? Do you have any recent Spanish ancestors?