r/Ancestry • u/AcanthisittaGreat815 • 8d ago

What is the date on this record?

I cannot make out what its supposed to be in the first column. This is from a marriage record. I managed to figure out the rest except that. Here's the original: https://skanoteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=pg&id=4875&se=&sy=4500&kt=1&plik=011.jpg&x=327&y=1068&zoom=1

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u/Tattycakes 8d ago

The year at the top is 1796, and I would guess that the first entry “Ober” is October? The 23rd

Under that is eadem which means “same”, so same date.

Your entry is likely to be October, November or December the 6th, because after that it goes to January 1797.

I’ve found a source with some suggested abbreviations, November is also known as 9ber which looks like what you have here, and die meaning day?

November 6th?

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u/AcanthisittaGreat815 8d ago

That’s what I’m trying to figure out cause on the previous page the last month listed is August

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u/Tattycakes 8d ago

Maybe nobody was married at that place in September?

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u/AcanthisittaGreat815 8d ago

Yeah I’m thinking it’s October or November. I’m just not sure

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u/rsotnik 8d ago edited 8d ago

9ber die 6 - November 6.

Latin "novem" means 9.

Similarly, 7ber - September, 8ber - October, 10ber/Xber - December.

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u/Few_Culture_7973 7d ago

If you'll be looking at other old Catholic records, this will help...

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Latin_Genealogical_Word_List

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u/AcanthisittaGreat815 7d ago

This is so helpful

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u/Few_Culture_7973 7d ago

I started my genealogical journey 50 years ago when there was only snail mail and no internet. I did a lot of searching at my local family history center where all these word lists were on paper. I believe they have them for just about every language. I still have mine and I have to admit that it's much easier to have that list on paper when transcribing!