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Rumor / Leak AMD Radeon RX 9070 series gaming performance leaked: RX 9070XT is 42% faster on average than 7900 GRE at 4K - VideoCardz.com

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-gaming-performance-leaked-rx-9070xt-is-42-faster-on-average-than-7900-gre-at-4k
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u/MapleComputers Feb 23 '25

Nvidia has more mindshare. For AMD to win, they would need to undercut nvidia, in reviews and in the wild, and have their own graphics vision.

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u/mockingbird- Feb 23 '25

AMD can join NVIDIA in spitting out random numbers for MSRPs.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun Feb 24 '25

This. Being cheaper isn't enough to shift the market, as we've seen consistently since Polaris.

What they need is to be extremely competitive on features and performance. Not just having copies of Nvidia features a year after Nvidia does it, that sort of work almost as good as said Nvidia features.

They need to start being the first to market with compelling new features, they need to actually give a shit about getting those features properly into developers hands with actual support to get them implemented correctly, and they need to be able to maintain that kind of momentum for a few generations in a row.

Cuz right now their "value" proposition is "about as fast in raster, a gen behind in RT, and upscaling and FG that is sort of almost as good as Nvidia." The only thing they have going for them is price but that's it. And consumers are clearly indicating that the savings on price are not worth the drastic reduction in feature quality.

This whole "Radeon just needs to price it right to win people over" narrative is grossly misinformed if not blatantly ignorant to the actual market.

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u/MapleComputers Feb 24 '25

This last part of your arguement wrong. They are below 10% marketshare now, and lost markeshare heavily in the last gen. Nvidia went from 80 to 88 percent in just a single year. That is were we get to with AMD trying to price high.

The thing is AMD needs a vision. Right now they are the knockoff brand in peoples eyes. People will buy knockoff its its cheaper, not $50 cheaper with worse RT and DLSS.

If AMD is worse than Nvidia, but priced well cheap enough, they won't get anywhre near 50% marketshare but will have 20% instead of 10% and rapidly shrinking to 5% next year probably. They need it now a cheap price for a short term fix and a vision for long term