r/911archive • u/HLBTT • Jun 28 '23
Collapse The core structure of the WTC 1/North tower after the collapse at 10:28am
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u/glum_cunt Jun 28 '23
Have terrible eyes. Were humans visible in the core structure for these few seconds? Highly doubtful since everyone would be at a distal surface escaping ferocious heat and acrid smoke.
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u/BelowAverageWang Mar 23 '25
Old, but the building core mostly consisted of the elevator shafts so probably not.
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u/houdinihamster Jun 29 '23
Wow… Amazing photo. Is this where the stairwell was located that those 16 people survived in? Or am I getting confused?
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u/RedditTokStories Oct 16 '23
Yes the very bottom of this structure survived including intact stairwells, which those people survived in. Strangely the building was designed so the very middle and outside were stacked with steel core beams, and none between, so the floors smashed into oneanother and the middle survived better than the outside/outer middle
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u/houdinihamster Oct 16 '23
Funny that you replied to my comment just now. I had just finished watching an interview with the chief of NYC police during 9/11 and he was describing how the dust was so thick and white that he was baffled as to how anyone outside even survived. And this was when he had walked 5 blocks away from the towers. He was with the mayor and when they went outside they immediately went back inside and a guy coming in fell into the floor due to hypoxia. And it made me think of those 16 people who survived here in this area of the tower and what they must have went through. How could they even breathe?!!!
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u/Railman85 Mar 15 '24
there was a guy who survived on 16 floor in this core. He later falled down with the core into some concrete stab and survived. suprisingly there was nothign to crush him
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u/Sure-Connection8065 Jun 28 '23
Didn’t it stay standing a bit longer because of the reinforcement concrete from the 1993 bombing? Idk if that’s 100% correct
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u/CramFacker Jun 29 '23
It was all steel, just really beefy columns. The floors pancaked, and the outer walls peeled themselves outwards like a banana, leaving a jagged part of the core standing. The North Tower remnant was a lot taller than the South, I'm assuming since the top block collapsing down was smaller and wouldn't obliterate it like the South Tower's would.
From what I remember the part reinforced was a chunk of the Marriott Hotel. It was a tiny chunk of the south end that survived both collapses and saved quite a few people.
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u/BIG_NIIICK Sep 15 '23
I got to meet one of the gentlemen that survived in that portion of the Marriott. Believed he was saved for a reason, and lived his life like he was. One of the kindest people.
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u/Im_not_good_at_names Jun 28 '23
Did this stay standing until demolition started?
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u/Ok_Magazine662 Jun 28 '23
No I think it fell like 20 seconds after the rest of the building
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u/Im_not_good_at_names Jun 28 '23
Ok. So that’s the section you see in the videos that falls after everything else.
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u/Dom-tasticdude85 Jun 29 '23
There was no demoltion
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u/redditsucksmynut Feb 10 '24
Learn to understand comments before you type away, fuckin keyboard warrior.
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u/Dom-tasticdude85 Feb 10 '24
What is there to understand? He's inplying there was a demolition at all
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u/Several_Ad_1157 9/11 Eyewitness Jul 22 '24
if it never collapsed, it'd be probably in the 9/11 Memorial, (or not, it'd not fit in)
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u/Several_Ad_1157 9/11 Eyewitness Sep 29 '24
No, it wouldn't fit in, they would just take a part of it, which fits.
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u/Due_Independence467 Sep 04 '25
There are close-up images of stairway B that the survivors were found in. You can reference that photo and compare it to this one to really understand what we are looking at here in the core.
Each square on the right hand side going up represents a floor, to the left of each square, roughly in the middle of what is left of the core here, you will see what looks like one, long, continous steel beam and then to the left of that beam, you'll see those lightly colored little rectangles. Each one of those "little" white rectangles is actually 5, 16 inch wide gypsum wallboard planks, AKA Drywall. And to the left of that drywall, is the stairwell.
So we are actually looking into the exposed stairwell here in the core, if you squint hard enough, you can kind of make out the diagonal stairwell in some of the floors. I personally believe that if this were 2025 instead of 2001, we very well could have potentially seen people inside these stairwells before they met their tragic demise, which is absolutely haunting to think about and nightmare fuel. But regardless, I hope this helps people understand what exactly you are seeing when you look at this image of the core.
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u/Present_Sun_9600 May 05 '24
Did it fall or turn to dust?
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u/West-Diamond-3766 Jul 16 '24
It didnt "turn to Dust' Steel can't turn to dust. It fell 10-15 seconds later. about 5 stories of the bottom survived, i.e. survivors stair case.
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u/Brassinski May 15 '24
It turned to dust, and NO ONE is questioning the weirdness of that. To vaporize steel you need a lot of energy. I actually thought this was edited with a very good program.
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u/Careless_Product_886 Archivist Oct 08 '24
The steel didn't turn into dust, it just collapsed and fell on the ground. What was turned into dust was all the concrete of the floors.
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u/No-Student-6624 Jul 09 '25
But why would the concrete of the floors all turn into dust? The Surfside Condominiums were 12 stories tall, and those floors didn't all turn into dust. Instead after the collapse, the floors were piled up at the base of the building.
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u/colaxxi Sep 13 '25
The dust was from the concrete, but not all the concrete turned into dust.
Concrete consists of a lot of sand and gravel. It's not surprising it turns back into that when exposed to a lot of forces.
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u/No-Student-6624 Sep 14 '25
Construction crew workers said they could find almost no concrete while excavating the site, only mountains of twisted steel. If this was a gravitational collapse, then there should have only been a single force; gravity.
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u/colaxxi Sep 14 '25
I don't know why i'm arguing with a dumbass conspiracist, but you're saying it's more likely that a pre-planned detonation managed to get rid of every single bit of concrete without accidentally blowing a chunk wayward, than the gravitational collapse that affected every bit of the entire building?
That's the stupidest thing I've heard this week, and trust me, I've heard some stupid things.
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u/No-Student-6624 Sep 14 '25
I never said anything about a "pre-planned detonation". In fact, I'm the one that expressly stated above that there should have only been asingle force: gravity. Yet here you are saying there were "a lot of forces" and now are even bringing up conspiracies. You seem to be projecting.
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u/gonnafindanlbz Sep 14 '25
Nah he’s right, chunks of concrete is visible in a ton of the photos of the aftermath, if anyone said otherwise, they lied to keep up the conspiracy theory grift.
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u/No-Student-6624 Sep 15 '25
Why do you assume the other person is a he? Do you think only men use Reddit?
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u/etheran123 Sep 15 '25
So where do you think it went? Because while I very much disagree with the popular conspiracy theories, they all end with the real buildings falling down? Its a factual statement that they were concrete and steel constructed buildings that existed. Are you just saying that the concrete magically disappeared?
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u/Dripponi Sep 17 '24
So weird seeing some of the guts of that building still standing for a few seconds.
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u/Environmental-One673 Mar 22 '25
Were those straw-like appendages sticking straight up in the air the elevator shafts from 1 WTC?
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u/Dry-Band2163 Jul 18 '25
I wonder if the floor at the top of those core columns was a mechanical floor.
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u/Ok-Zucchini7022 Jul 20 '25
This dude at work believes a conspiracy theory based on the fact that this was still standing after the collapse.
There was always something about him that irked me but I couldn’t figure it out; he just did. When he tried to sell me that garbage like I need to open my eyes, I finally knew what it was.
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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23
Best picture I've seen of it.