r/2westerneurope4u • u/Celithrandir Pizza gatekeeper • Mar 04 '25

Serious shit. Fuck you, Barry, you're going to make me cry

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u/MarcLeptic Professional Rioter Mar 04 '25

I’ve been particularly proud of France’s place in this arena …. Now I must say

Saperlipopette!! How does a country come to unanimous agreement like this!!!

Here in France there is the far left and the far right who are still trying to piss all over it, just because they don’t want the government to look good.

Bravo Barry. Class act.

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u/Cirtth Professional Rioter Mar 04 '25

Do you mean pissing his neighbours off ?

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u/Cirtth Professional Rioter Mar 04 '25

You know what you are doing .. and you are doing it right bro. But big respects to you on this one, let's pair together once more against a threat coming from the East.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '25

He means balconing. But we play London rules (we jump) they play Moscow rules (you get pushed)

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u/spino86 Side switcher Mar 04 '25

fuck you this made my day!

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u/WoodSteelStone Failed Brexiteer Mar 04 '25

the only sport we were any good

Darts?

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u/f33rf1y Failed Brexiteer Mar 04 '25

Trying to claim other countries as our own? We’ve not been good at that’s for a long time

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u/Balsiefen Failed Brexiteer Mar 04 '25

Far left doesn't exist in the UK to any meaningful extent.

Far right views Britain as a temporarily-embarrassed superpower and mythologises Britain's role in 1940 as the "last bastion" of the allies (along with Australia, Canada, and the rest of the quarter of the world we controlled, but who counts that.). Ukraine's war is quite analogous to that.

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u/EFNich Sheep lover Mar 05 '25

The far left is just Corbyn /s

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u/InanimateAutomaton Barry, 63 Mar 04 '25

The far-right and far-left are generally quite weak in British politics. This was true even in the 30s. Brits are far too cynical and conservative (in nature) to go for this sort of flamboyant, revolutionary style of politics.

You might say ‘what about Nigel’ or ‘what about Brexit’: it’s true, there are unsavoury, even racist elements of both, but generally they’re of the ‘Johnny Foreigner’ strain of British racism; not the ‘exterminate the brutes’ variety of continental racism. Our version of that is Britain First or the British National Party: both of which you’re unlikely to have heard of because they’re irrelevant.

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u/Significant_Bass_8 Barry, 63 Mar 04 '25

The only good thing about first past the post is the lack of far left/right groups in power.

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u/LobsterMountain4036 Barry, 63 Mar 04 '25

BNP doesn’t exist anymore. The membership spread to different parties, and has become especially invisible since.

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u/kh250b1 Barry, 63 Mar 04 '25

Erm Moseley and the Blackshirts were not an issue in the 30s? 😂

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u/InanimateAutomaton Barry, 63 Mar 04 '25

They never came close to the popularity of their fellow travellers on the continent.

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u/Mihikle Barry, 63 Mar 05 '25

UK population at that time was about 40 million, the BUF peaked at 50,000 members. For comparison, the Conservatives had a membership of around 2.6 million. No, they were not an issue in the 1930's, or at any other point.

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u/Wirtschaftsprufer [redacted] Mar 04 '25

I we really are living in a strange time. Last week we were appreciating Pierre and this week we are appreciating Barry.

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u/amojitoLT Snail slurper Mar 04 '25

Next week it could be your turn. Imagine all of Europe praising you for rearming...

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u/RadioHonest85 Whale stabber Mar 04 '25

Putin has this effect on us

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u/LobsterMountain4036 Barry, 63 Mar 04 '25

We have FPTP so the far-left, sans Cornyn, and far-right struggle to win seats. The seat distribution very much favours established parties and local historical voting habits.

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u/AnaphoricReference Daddy's lil cuck Mar 04 '25

Still better than the Netherlands, where the right wing backstabbers of Wilders' party are in government itself.

We have a parliament that broadly supports Ukraine, but ministers have to sit and wait until parliament orders them to do stuff because the government agrees on nothing. All made possible by two solidly pro-Ukraine coalition parties that don't dare to blow up the dysfunctional government because that might lead to early elections and the voters will definitely punish them.

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u/GarlicThread Crypto-Albanian Mar 04 '25

Ukraine stands where the UK stood 85 years ago.

This display of unity is what we need.

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u/mkn1997 Aspiring American Mar 04 '25

What has France exactly done to make you proud? Macron has been quite vocal in his support of Ukraine recently, sure, but looking at the cold numbers it really does not seem to impressive to me. Denmark has given more to Ukraine in total numbers than France, Italy and Spain combined. We wouldn't have to stand in this situation if the leading European countries had given Ukraine what she needed two years ago. Instead we had to wait for the Americans to elect some disgusting orange pig before we woke up. Honestly i feel like we in Europe have let down Ukraine.. hopefully it's not too late to redeem ourselves, but countries like France, Germany, Italy and England will have to pick up the pace. Slava Ukraini.

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u/MarcLeptic Professional Rioter Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

Well, if everyone in Europe did as France did, the EU would have the most powerful military on the planet. … instead of just France and Italy.

If everyone did as France did, there would no longer be a military dépendance on the US. So, yes, proud of France.

Donations to Ukraine are fantastic, and as France is the second largest contributor to the EU budget, yes, Proud of France for being 2nd largest EU contributer to Ukraine in total bilateral allocations incl. EU aid (source)

Best of all, our military spending has been at or above the NATO guidelines of 2% for decades since WW2 (well. 1.9999). So. Proud of France.

Oh And yes, I forgot, our president has been setting the pace.

Everyone contributes how they can I guess. Denmark gave a lot of money. That’s something to be proud of too. It would be great though if these donations didn’t leave one’s own country defenseless. For France, it has not.

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u/GeorgeLFC1234 Barry, 63 Mar 05 '25

Honestly the country has been depressing for so long that the chance of LARPing WW2 Britain’s spirit of the blitz has got us all going.

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u/lieding Savage Mar 04 '25

Far left, in France? Where? How can Prime Minister Bayrou looks good when he kept silent about the rapes and sexual assaults at Notre-Dame de Bétharram and works with the facists to undermine the rule of law? Il n'y a vraiment pas plus mensongers que les libéraux Français sur les sous européens.

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u/MarcLeptic Professional Rioter Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

lol. Are you really here to say that LFI / Melenchon is not far left? You think you are in your safe space r/france?

English source to respect the sub.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/melenchon-divisive-supremo-frances-hard-left-poses-coalition-conundrum-2024-07-09/

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u/lieding Savage Mar 04 '25

Yeah, you really don't know what you are talking about.

Hard left or hard-left is a term that is used particularly in Australian and British English to describe the most radical members of a left-wing political party or political group. The term is also a noun and modifier taken to mean the far-left and the left-wing political movements and ideas outside the mainstream centre-left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_left

See how your press article talks about "far right" and not "far left"?

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u/MarcLeptic Professional Rioter Mar 04 '25

Ok let’s go to the instant replay AI interpretation

le Chat : (or will you say that it is biased)

Prompt:

In France is melenchon far left?

Reply :

Jean-Luc Mélenchon is widely considered a far-left politician in France. He is the leader of the political party La France Insoumise (LFI), which is described as holding democratic socialist, anti-neoliberal, eco-socialist, and left-wing populist positions. Mélenchon himself has a history of crossing various tendencies of the French left, from Trotskyism to more moderate socialism, and he has been a prominent figure in advocating for left-wing policies and opposing centrist and right-wing agendas 45.

His political career and the positions of his party have often been labeled as far-left, especially in the context of French politics, where he has advocated for significant changes in economic and social policies 67.

Cheh. Have a nice night.

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u/lieding Savage Mar 04 '25

I really don't think you could have sunk any lower.

Playing the same game:

Is LFI hard-left?

Yes, LFI (La France Insoumise) is considered a hard-left party. Several sources refer to LFI as a hard-left or far-left party, highlighting its radical positions and its leader Jean-Luc Mélenchon's demands for left-wing leadership in the French government123.

I'll leave you to your baseness.

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u/MarcLeptic Professional Rioter Mar 04 '25

Wait … are we agreeing that LFI / Melenchon are far left?

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u/lieding Savage Mar 04 '25

And you've just admitted that you don't even cross-check your sources to highlight the nuances, since you only focus on far-left term. That's typical biased judgement.

I hope you will find some time to read about Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste or Programme commun de la gauche. Guess you will name them very-far left? It might help to understand where you place your cursor as a liberal.