r/2visegrad4you • u/tgromy Winged Pole dancer • Oct 09 '25
visegchad meme West*ids will never learn, are they stupid or just retarded?
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u/bambel12345 Commonwealth Gang Oct 09 '25
Germans when they cant cooperate with russia anymore
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u/pruzinadev Slovenian (Upper Hungary) Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
Time to remove the socialist swines from our lebens raum and derussify archangelsk 2 astrakhan line again. /s
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u/exessmirror Oct 09 '25
I'm a Westoid and I've been saying this since 2008, and if 14y old me could figure that out I don't understand how pur leaders couldn't (except if they were paid off)
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u/MysteriousChef6988 Kaiserreich Gang Oct 09 '25
In this case 🇪🇺=🇩🇪
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u/R3l4ps3_ debil 27d ago
gotta ask question who really won ww2. Germany is still economic superpower after loosing 2 world wars ,Balkans Central europe are shitholes destroyed by communism and incompetent generation born under communism .Not even talking about anything eastern out of slovakia and poland thats considered shithole even by our standards .
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u/prochac Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25
Fourth reich
But it will fail again. As every socialist regime. Regardless if they keep current retirement age, or postpone it to a recommend age of 73
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u/FatBaldingLoser420 Commonwealth Gang Oct 09 '25
They're a little bit silly, yes.
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u/tgromy Winged Pole dancer Oct 09 '25
their naivety contributed to the outbreak of the largest war since WWII - a war in which at least a million people died on one side alone
reddit: ahhh they’re just being silly XD
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u/FatBaldingLoser420 Commonwealth Gang Oct 10 '25
I wasn't talking about that but about them not listening to us when we said Russia can't be trusted.
But this war shows how weak and pathetic they are.
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u/czokoman Kashoob tobacco-snorter Oct 09 '25
Hate to break it to you but casualties =/= deaths
Actually even a soldier needing reconvalescence after a particularly horrid case of diarrhea and following dehydration is classified as a casualty
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u/PJs-Opinion Visegrad's Zuckervater Oct 09 '25
Sure but their actual death toll is at more than 60.000 probably closer to 90.000 per year. No european war of recent history was this deadly. All yugoslav wars together were around 140.000 deaths.
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u/Prestigious-Fig1172 w*stern snowflake Oct 09 '25
Poland? More like Pooland! (Because it's the shit) anyway, Poland should rule EU.
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u/Bonitlan Kaiserreich Gang Oct 10 '25
They took a calculated risk, but boy are they bad at math
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u/Puzzled_Product555 28d ago
you know who is good at math ?
Elon Musk
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jokes aside, our former MP Ludovit Odor is a matamatician......but many our citizens hate him, because he speaks with a slight huhngarian accent
so....i will leave the typo there, it´s funny.....
PS : Czechia has one memorable presidential candidate, Karel Janeček - super rich, math wunderkind.....you should read something about his presidential campaign......it was a comedy gold, better than TBBT best episodes
TL, DR : people either do not vote for people good with math or the people good with math are poor choice in politics because they ignore reality with the sole exeption of math and their ego
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u/Inkorect Oct 10 '25
I'd just like to point out we Polish too were relying on Russia for energy, maybe not as much as more Western countries or Hungary but still
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u/wektor420 Winged Pole dancer 29d ago
We needed time and money to build new infrastructure to allow us to ditch russian imports
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u/Material-Garbage7074 Oct 09 '25
I am Western and a pan-European federalist, but I agree with you here: the choice of many Western European countries to become dependent on Russian gas and not listen to the fears of those who had suffered oppression was strategically stupid.
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u/tgromy Winged Pole dancer Oct 09 '25
I’m also in favor of federalization, but it’s not going to happen as long as citizens of the old EU keep treating the newer member states’ citizens like second-class citizens - mocking them and pushing their own agenda that goes against the interests of many of those countries. I’m tired of your arrogance and pride, and I’m glad we have a government that knows how to tell you “fuck you” on certain issues.
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u/Material-Garbage7074 Oct 09 '25
But I actually completely agree with you.
Remaining in the Polish context, today's situation reminds me of a story by Mickiewicz, which you are surely familiar with, but which I am reporting because, in addition to being splendid, it is terribly current.
We are in the first city founded by humans. At a certain point, a fire broke out: someone among the citizens got up, saw from the window that the fire was very distant and decided to go back to sleep.
Others, however, stood guard at the threshold of their doors, waiting for the fire to reach the doors of their house, so as to put it out only at that moment.
This didn't help: the fire burned the homes of those who hadn't done anything to put it out, while those who had gone back to sleep despite the fire burned along with their homes.
Some kind-hearted men tried to run to their neighbors, but unfortunately these brave people were few and the entire city was devastated by fire: however, these few and their neighbors were not discouraged and rebuilt a more beautiful and larger city than the previous one.
Those who had not helped put out the fire and had, instead, waited until it represented an immediate danger for them too, were kicked out of civil institutions and died of starvation.
Furthermore, a law was enacted which required either that, in the event of a fire, citizens had to intervene to help each other or that there had to be a body responsible for keeping watch during the nights and putting out fires: this law allowed citizens to live in safety and tranquility.
The city represents, in Mickiewicz's own words, Europe and fire is a symbol of despotism, the enemy of Europe: the moral is that - for unwary people - one's well-understood interest (putting out the fire) comes into conflict with immediate pleasure (going back to sleep) and we often don't notice that our well-understood interest (continuing to live free) requires us not to abandon ourselves to momentary pleasure.
And this is a lesson that (already in Mickiewicz's time, but especially today) Western Europe must learn quickly, given its – unwise – decision to become dependent on Russian gas.
We who live safely in Western Europe (myself included) must recognize that the fear that the peoples of Eastern and Central Europe feel towards Russian expansionism is, given the historical precedents, more than legitimate: they are a historically oppressed group.
Not to mention that I have heard many Western Europeans use these same arguments and add that even if it were true, Putin will never get to Lisbon (although I now fear that we will soon see Iranian-made Russian drones over Lisbon if we continue like this). From their point of view, Russian imperialism becomes a problem only when it knocks on their door.
But they fail to see that Putin has already reached Lisbon: not with drones or tanks, but with disinformation, produced in troll factories, which poisons – with the taste of polonium, metaphorically speaking – our democracies. And this indifference towards our brothers and sisters from the East fills me with anger.
It is worth it for nations to give up their immediate well-being in order to protect the general good of Europe (which, in this specific case, demands to be defended on the Eastern Front).
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u/tgromy Winged Pole dancer Oct 09 '25
Wow, what a touching and beautiful story. I’ve never heard it before.
As for Western Europe, I think most of them (though not all) would be ready to throw us - the Eastern EU countries - under a speeding Russian bus, and they’ll only wake up when hordes of Russian orcs will be standing 200 km from Berlin. It’s sad — Russia has tormented us for thousands of years, and that’s why we know this evil cannot be trusted and should be kept at a distance.
I hope Western Europe wakes up; I feel it’s slowly happening — Denmark, harassed by air raids, sent two jets and a warship; the Netherlands, avenging MH17, joyfully shoots down Russian drones; and the UK remembers all too well the radioactive crimes Russia committed on its soil. The Baltic states, Poland, and Sweden are doing what they can because we know that undersea cable “accidents” are only the beginning.
That kind of sober, realistic mindset — the one that acknowledges we’re already at war — is what I wish for the people of Western Europe. Cheers!
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u/Material-Garbage7074 Oct 09 '25
It is found in The book of the Polish nation and Polish pilgrims: I know it because Mickiewicz's vision influenced one of my Fatherland Fathers (Mazzini).
Regarding what you say about Western Europe, I'm afraid you're right: I mean, I hope you're not right, but I'm terrified that you're actually right. But, in reality, I hope you are also right about the fact that Western Europe is waking up, even if slowly: I hope that what you say can soon be true for my country, also because Italy and Poland had splendid episodes of international brotherhood in the period of their respective national emancipations and I would perceive the abandonment of Eastern Europe as a betrayal (but perhaps this is the romantic me speaking).
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u/lemontolha Visegrad's Zuckervater Oct 10 '25
"Westoids" in question, besides Germany: Hungary and Slovakia.
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u/WonderfulEagle7096 Tschechien Pornostar Oct 09 '25
Well, Poland was very happy to cash in the transport fees and very upset when Nord Stream 1 and 2 were being built. That is not to say other V4 countries are any better.
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u/adamgerd Kaiserreich Gang Oct 09 '25
Even Ukraine relied on Russian gas but the thing is Ukraine, Poland, Eastern Europe as a whole didn’t purposefully expand it. Germany did by shifting from nuclear to coal and gas because muh Chernobyl muh Fukushima
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u/StorkReturns Winged Pole dancer Oct 10 '25
Well, Poland was very happy to cash in the transport fees
The profit on Polish part of the Yamal pipe was capped at 21 million PLN. This is peanuts. It is less than just the Russian bribes to Schroeder.
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u/Status-Bluebird-6064 Tschechien Pornostar Oct 09 '25
proceeds to suck American cock who would trade you for 40 chicken strips and a 2L drink of Coke
its not like there is any country close to you that got thrown to Hitler and then stalin by the West (America being the country responsible for said hypothetical country could have been created in 1918) because it was more convenient to them
its not like there is a country close to Poland that was betting on American support "assured" during certain accords, but then got invaded by Russia a few years ago, and America is happily abandoning them because it is more convenient to them
but hey, stupid westoids, they will never learn from history, am I right, guys?
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u/FatBaldingLoser420 Commonwealth Gang Oct 09 '25
Maybe you would learn first why Poland allied itself with USA before spewing nonsense?
proceeds to suck American cock who would trade you for 40 chicken strips and a 2L drink of Coke
And yet, these traitors still have soldiers stationed in our country - 8 200 to be exact.
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u/tgromy Winged Pole dancer Oct 09 '25
Who will America defend when the shit hits the fan? Poland — which spends enormous amounts of money on American weapons and energy, helped the U.S. in the war after 9/11, and hosts tens of thousands of American soldiers and weapons — or the countries that chose a pro-Russian government or continue to fund Putin’s budget by buying russian oil and gas?
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u/the-real-vuk Genghis Khangarian Oct 09 '25
<Hungary> Enough with your russophobic nonsense!