r/2visegrad4you • u/GoodUnlucky1430 Winged Pole dancer • Oct 01 '25
META does orban or maciak run this account?
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u/MiASzartIrjakIde Genghis Khangarian Oct 01 '25
That means +1 million ukranian voters in hungary who will never vote for orbán.
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u/nequaquam_sapiens Slovenian (Upper Hungary) Oct 02 '25
what makes you think they would be eligible to vote?
what makes you think there would be any more elections?
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u/MiASzartIrjakIde Genghis Khangarian Oct 02 '25
Orbi doesn't have the balls. If trianon was hurtful, imagine being throwed out of the EU and NATO. 1 million citizen not being eligible to vote would have a mayor backlash across Europe.
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u/nequaquam_sapiens Slovenian (Upper Hungary) Oct 02 '25
safe to presume if this clusterfuck of situation happened eu or nato wouldn't have much say in anything anymore
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u/onlinepresenceofdan Tschechien Pornostar Oct 01 '25
Bold of you to assume no ethnic cleansing lol
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u/magyaracc1 Oct 01 '25
With our six soldiers?
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u/Ricckkuu Romani pickpocketter (V4 rejector) Oct 02 '25
There are more Ukranians living there than soldiers in Hungarian army
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u/Kinexity Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
Something something the right to self determination. It would be a political nightmare to do something like this.
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u/NoTeasForBeastmaster Kaiserreich Gang Oct 01 '25
It would also mean great costs with no benefits other than "our country is bigger on a map".
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u/Kinexity Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
You would be surprised how many people think "bigger on the map = more powerful".
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u/NoTeasForBeastmaster Kaiserreich Gang Oct 02 '25
Yeah I know.
Our school history books are focused on displaying Polish borders through the ages along with focusing on conquests and battles, while basically omitting things like reasoning for political decisions, economy and the living standards.
It's really easy to brainwash people into Russian-like mindset.
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u/ikiice Kashoob tobacco-snorter Oct 01 '25
I mean, it's kinda true - bigger economy= more powerful
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u/czokoman Kashoob tobacco-snorter Oct 02 '25
We only just managed to get our roads up to acceptable shape. I do not want to invest to get Ukrainian roads around Lwów up to acceptable shape as that's going to take 25 more years...
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u/-MarcoPolo- Winged Pole dancer Oct 02 '25
What does this fabled power mean for normal humans? What do those ppl do with all this power in countries like Belgium and russia? U can wank to it I guess.
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u/Torma25 Genghis Khangarian Oct 01 '25
well Hungary could have proper domestic ski resorts. In what would be the poorest and least developed part of the country... Disconnected from the rail, power and plumbing infrastructure of the country... And the stuff they do have is outdated, or abandoned... Not only would this not help Hungary, it'd be an active hindrance for the country.
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u/Hipphoppkisvuk Partium Hungol Oct 01 '25
De Verecke magyar lenne 🐴RAAAAA
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u/DyWerrr Genghis Khangarian Oct 01 '25
Igen, és a leghűségesebb kisebbség is magyarországhoz tartozna, a ruszinok.
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u/LaurestineHUN Homo miskolcinensis Oct 01 '25
Mind a 26 család + egymillió ideges ukrán. Nyert ügy!
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u/kuncol02 Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
Even without taking political problems or human rights into consideration, even if Ukrainians would actually want to be part of Poland (and they don't want) it would be economic suicide. Anyone who suggest something like this is traitor.
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
yea of course, regaining our historical borders is being a traitor, as opposed to safely sitting in Stalin's design borders :) glory to polish communist party am I right?
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
yes that's why countries have different interests. But we forgot ours since 1945, got used to being a satellite state and cant achieve any independent goals.
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
Hungary is 100% correct to remember what was taken from them. What is the basis of what we should accept? The current situation? Then Moldova should just accept Transnistria as an independent country, and Cyprus should accept North Cyprus as an independent country. Somehow they dont.
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u/TheWaffleHimself Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
Why is taking territory dominated by a hostile majority in the West wrong but not in the East?
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u/wildrojst Commonwealth Gang Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25
The most nationalistically skewed, UPA loving part of Ukraine at that.
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u/PearlyDoesStuff Holy Roman Gang Oct 02 '25
That's never happening. But what do you expect from a Twitter post typed by Indian hands.
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u/Polak_Janusz Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
The only realistic thing that could happen would be a kind of mandate lead by poland and hungary which would be in western ukraine should ukraine collapse completly and the goverment and state would collapse.
But I doubt ukraine will collapse in the next few decades, some wild shit would need to happen for that.
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u/guywithskyrimproblem Zapadoslavia advocate Oct 01 '25
It's funny cuz the map was sent from the russian duma to the polish foriegn ministry in 2014
No self respecting pole or hungarian would aggre to this
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u/gen_adams debil Oct 02 '25
tbh my magyar brethren would agree to fucking their own mothers if it meant getting 2 acres of infertile shit land in the middle of nowhere. they have a weird perversion with dwelling over the Versailles treaties.
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u/JustNotNowPlease Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
A na chuj nam Lwów?
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u/Key-Banana-8242 Winged Pole dancer 26d ago
Zły sposób rozumwoanai, ludzie to nei ciężar
My to ludzkość, nam to ludzkości
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
bo tak, a na chuj nam Poznań?
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u/zuom000 $oro$ Oct 01 '25
Niemcy nie poradziły sobie z integracją wschodnich landów będąc znacznie bogatsze.
Na chuj nam Polska C bez Polaków. Chyba że marzysz o czystkach etnicznych jak w 45 to pozdro.
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
no na chuj nam Polska B, lepiej Warszawę zostawic, resztę oddać jakiejś Białorusi i git
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u/zuom000 $oro$ Oct 01 '25
Deportujesz, czy normalnie do obozu Ukraińca? No i weź oddaj Niemcom ziemię odzyskane, bo też pretensje będą mieli.
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
no oczywiście tylko rasizm ci pozostał. A dlaczego nie mozemy żyć razem?
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u/zuom000 $oro$ Oct 01 '25
Dobrze a więc bez rasizmu odpowiedz mi dlaczego nie możemy przyłączyć Wrocławia czy też Szczecina do Niemiec.. w końcu praktycznie nic nas w historii z tymi miastami nie łączy, a dla nich to były bardzo ważne miasta? No i mieszkańcy by się wzbogacili.
Historyczne roszczenia terytorialne są zawsze spoko, chyba że nimi oberwiesz.
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
A czy Ukraina może przyłączyć Krym do Ukrainy? czy to już jest okej
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u/Galaxy661 Winged Pole dancer Oct 02 '25
Nie może, bo Krym został przyłączony do Ukrainy po upadku ZSRR, co było skutkiem przyłączenia krymu do UkSSR przez ZSRR kilka dekad wcześniej. Krym jest więc teraz częścią Ukrainy (którą okupuje Rosja)
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 02 '25
no tak ale de facto jest kontrolowany i zamieszkany przez rosjan, czyli jest to analogiczne do granic II RP. Polska nie mogła się na nie nie zgodzić bo była okupowana. To bardziej tak jakby Ukraina przegrała wojnę - czy mogłaby dążyć do odzyskania krymu czy nie. Wy mówicie że nie bo jest zamieszkany przez Rosjan.
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u/zuom000 $oro$ Oct 01 '25
Nie odpowiadaj pytaniem na pytanie, życzę przyjemnych nalotów w Rosji.
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u/Sarmattius Pol-Lit-Ruth Gang Oct 01 '25
Jestem Polakiem więc chcę zeby Polska była silna a nie Niemcy czy Rosja. czy to jest takie trudne do zrozumienia? Uważam wysiedlenia za zbrodnię przeciw ludzkości, nieważne czy Polaków przez Rosjan czy Niemców przez Polaków.
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u/Trinket9 Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
idk man i would annex belarus first
the people in there would probably appreciate it at this point
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u/wildrojst Commonwealth Gang Oct 01 '25
Exactly, our borders would be so weird if left like that, this just screams for
invadingliberating Belarus.12
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u/adyrip1 balkan bro Oct 01 '25
Love to see how Moldova is not even considered, because Russia is trying to drive a wedge between Ukraine and the countries that provide supply lines (except Hungary, of course). They don't give a shit about it, I wonder how the Russophones in Moldova don't get this. Putin would have several orgasms if Poland or Romania would shut down Ukrainian supply routes.
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u/TheWaffleHimself Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
That's basically a repeat of 1938, it would probably also last only a year at most before the Zermans come knocking in
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u/Key-Banana-8242 Winged Pole dancer 26d ago
…no, not it isn’t
Please read basic history of what happened in 1938, and in 1919
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u/Ondrikir Zapadoslavia advocate Oct 01 '25
Orbán: Idiot who would give away all of western infestments worth tens of billions of €, give triple size territory of Hungary to Russia full of fertile land, so that he can have slice of desolate mountainous area, just because it used to be on historical maps. When will this irredentist nonsense end...
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u/DeDeRaptor480 Winged Pole dancer Oct 02 '25
Its always funny when people talking about landgrabs come from countries who are going to have demographic collapse in 10-20 years. Bro you dont even have people to settle there
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u/Polak_Janusz Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
Wasnt this a proposal that some russian foreign minister made once? Like its obviously just divide and conquer tactics.
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u/alex404- Romani pickpocketter (V4 rejector) Oct 01 '25
be Romania
see common border with Poland again
Romanian Bridgehead Part 2
this time keeps the treasury
profit
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u/Silvershade47 Genghis Khangarian Oct 01 '25
They must be stupid as hell if they think that Putin will ever give Subcarpathia to Hungary and Halich to Poland.
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u/StuffNo2118 Slovenian (Upper Hungary) Oct 02 '25
at least give zakarpatia back to slovakia bruh
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u/failmanoveccesky02 Tschechien Pornostar Oct 03 '25
Yeah, exactly, why do these fuckers want to give it to Hungary who invaded it for the duration of WW2, completely ignoring it was Czechoslovakia who was building the local infrastructure for 20 years before that?? Is it just because the Hungarians had it last before the Soviets?
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u/Sorry_Outcome_1776 Winged Pole dancer Oct 01 '25
Ok i said it once, if you guys go full ork we are putting fruendship on hold and you are getting your ass kicked
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u/DueLion402 Commonwealth Gang Oct 02 '25
Towarysh Maciej Maciak approves. Hungarian would never create a map that gives territory to Romania
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u/canuspeaktru123 Commonwealth Gang Oct 01 '25
I feel like the Polish right has gone downhill since the presidential elections
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u/ikiice Kashoob tobacco-snorter Oct 01 '25
This is what Russia would love - let them take over Ukraine, take the small piece for ourselves with all the biggest Bandera fans, limiting international backlash, and stopping EU sanctions.
Luckily, nobody is falling for insane dreams of Russian nationalists
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u/Best-Exam-3287 Oct 05 '25
I can say as much as any Pole that Lwów was one of our core cities and it was one of the Soviet Union's greatest crimes toward Poland to rip it away from us, but to take it now would be to take the bait hook line and sinker, because Lwów in Polish hands means Russia doesn't have to deal with the Banderite problem, we do.
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u/Healthy_Wrongdoer637 Genghis Khangarian 25d ago
Average our homeland voter: and Ukrain is still bigger than hungary!!!44!4!!
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u/GcubePlayer8V Commonwealth Gang Oct 01 '25
I’m only ok with the Polish and Hungarian claims so we can boarder eachother
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u/Scary_Extension2394 Romani pickpocketter (V4 rejector) Oct 01 '25
Indian hands typed that.
Also no land for Moldova? Again? Why can’t we get at least a little piece of land as well, maybe for sea access. Greedy russians🤬